ue, 3 Jan 2012 05:23:55
To: The Java Posse
Reply-To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: ORMs and Immutability
I think my discovery of the day is in a CSV parser that has a comment
about how if the code below were written in C then it would use goto
in order to jump quickly fro
I think my discovery of the day is in a CSV parser that has a comment
about how if the code below were written in C then it would use goto
in order to jump quickly from one large section to another but as goto
is not available in Java, instead it throws an exception to quickly
jump to another part
I cant but help but thinking, this might just be a prime candidate for
Daily WTF article...
neljapäev, 22. detsember 2011 17:52.28 UTC+2 kirjutas Carl Jokl:
>
> This is probably my favourite like from the JIRA comment but I will
> take out the name of the company from the package:
>
> "Hmmm ..
Hi Carl,
I posted a message to this thread but it somehow got lost. We have the same
problem in a current project but we are not using a ORM but JSON for
storage. We are using a builder to deserialize the JSON and create a
immutable object out of it. I have an experiment up on GitHub. Maybe it
Back to the subject of Immutability with domains. What occurred to me
is that there is a difficulty in any domain relationship where Domain
A has a reference to Domain B and Domain B holds a reference back to
Domain A (where you don't want any duplication of objects). Due to any
standard database l
Hi Carl,
we had a simmilar problem in the project and basically use a builder for
mapping (in this case JSON data) to an immutable class. We just pass the
builder to the mapper instead of the actual bean and it"s get filled with
the correct values. So theoretically it is possible. The tools jus
That is where I acknowledge my own fault in that on company time I am
at their digression as to what I should be spending it on. I think he
had every right to be angry about that because I wish I had just done
it all in my own time. One difficulty is that I have a desktop for
work and security won'
Hey Carl,
Not to be too harsh to someone who can't give their side of the story, but
from your account it sounds like your supervisor is a dick.
It's fair enough to get annoyed if you're spending time on non-prioritised
stuff - they pays their money they takes their choice. But if it's mostly
on
c 2011 05:45:03
To: The Java Posse
Reply-To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: ORMs and Immutability
The demonstration domain classes that I had been working on went down
like a lead balloon. My supervisor thought the whole endeavour was a
waste of time and could not see any ben
Don't worry, List> happens to me
too ;-)
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Carl Jokl wrote:
> The demonstration domain classes that I had been working on went down
> like a lead balloon. My supervisor thought the whole endeavour was a
> waste of time and could not see any benefit. I was in the wr
The demonstration domain classes that I had been working on went down
like a lead balloon. My supervisor thought the whole endeavour was a
waste of time and could not see any benefit. I was in the wrong
genuinely for having spent too much time on it. Not that I originally
intended to but it took a
, but then I think in code rather
than SQL.
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From: "Fabrizio Giudici"
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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:26:50
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Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: ORMs and Immutability
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 0
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:51:51 +0100, Ricky Clarkson
wrote:
My current client dislikes Hibernate (not that I'm proposing it)
because most of their technical staff have DB experience more than
straight programming experience; even the Business Analysts can talk
in SQL. They worry that if Hibern
My current client dislikes Hibernate (not that I'm proposing it)
because most of their technical staff have DB experience more than
straight programming experience; even the Business Analysts can talk
in SQL. They worry that if Hibernate does something they don't expect
they won't be able to make
Hi Carl,
I think that Hibernate (like any framework) has its place. It gets mocked
probably more because of the countless abuses of it by developers who
haven't quite understood it properly ("I can do foobar.save(); that is all
I need to know").
Cheers,
Martijn
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011, Ca
In all seriousness though, is this how badly Hibernate is viewed these
days? Having an ORM seemed to make sense to me and still does in
theory. I know in practice I have hit plenty of obscure cases or
problems in Hibernate but I am not sure I would throw it all out as a
waste of time just yet and a
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