Re: [The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-12 Thread Wildam Martin
2010/4/10 Michał Bendowski mic...@bendowski.pl: From the technical point of view, using a common UI library included in the JDK would be great. From the user point of view - Eclipse looks like a decent Mac app, while Netbeans is just plain ugly. The default theme of Netbeans is usually the

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com wrote: The default theme of Netbeans is usually the OS-like one. I think that's the point, really. OS-*like*. It doesn't *quite* look the same as would be expected from a native app. It's surprisingly tricky to do this in

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-12 Thread Kevin Wright
One definite advantage that I have spotted in SWT though! It can recognise more than 3 mouse buttons; very handy if you want the next/prev buttons to do something in your IDE... On 12 April 2010 09:45, Dominic Mitchell d...@happygiraffe.net wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Wildam Martin

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-12 Thread Jess Holle
Curiously I find Eclipse just plain ugly on Windows. I guess it's all a matter of taste. [I also don't see using the Mac as a Java development platform as you're hostage to Apple's timeliness of Java update releases -- and Apple's pathological secrecy about release dates.] On 4/10/2010 2:37

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-12 Thread Wildam Martin
2010/4/12 Jess Holle je...@ptc.com: [I also don't see using the Mac as a Java development platform as you're hostage to Apple's timeliness of Java update releases -- and Apple's pathological secrecy about release dates.] I wanted to test my Java applications also on Mac - to make sure it

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-12 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/12/10 10:45 , Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com mailto:mwil...@gmail.com wrote: The default theme of Netbeans is usually the OS-like one. I think that's the point, really. OS-/like/.

[The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-09 Thread carl
Not all of us on the Posse are SWT bashers :) I always thought a next- generation toolkit could have been built with something like swing on top of java2D and SWT. But I guess JavaFX's scene graph is the now new new thing. On Apr 8, 12:01 pm, Lhasadad lhasa...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, Listened

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: SWT Bashing. can we give it a rest

2010-04-09 Thread Jess Holle
I'd agreee that SWT helped kick Sun in the pants to dramatically improve Java 2D and Swing. As such it helped us all out. At this point I believe it has outlived its usefulness for 95% of use cases (fonts being rendered just the way you feel they should be does /not/ count in my book) and