[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-05-01 Thread remco
On Apr 30, 2:04 pm, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > remco wrote: > > Your post looks to much like rhetoric than like argument to me. > > Come on good people and bad people. Are you telling fairy-tails to > > kids? > > No, I am only telling people a simple fact that holds true since some > thousands y

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Ben Schulz
On 30 Apr., 18:22, Ryan Waterer wrote: > I heard from a friend, who heard it from her uncle's second cousin's niece > who heard it from a stranger on the street that EMACs has caused more > "unintentional deaths"  than any other IDE in existence.  :-) Yeah, well.. with great power comes great re

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Steven Herod
Well, what else is there to do whilst you are waiting for a compile to finish? That said, it seems few people are willing to pair program with Christian these days. This may explain that fact. :0) On May 1, 2:16 am, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Christian Catchpole > >

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Ryan Waterer
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Christian Catchpole < christ...@catchpole.net> wrote: > > > Ide love to see some stats on eclipse related suicides. > > IntelliJ is the only IDE I know that has actually created life. > > Let's get a comparison of all the IDEs since the dawn of time. I heard from

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Greg Reddin
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Christian Catchpole wrote: > > IntelliJ is the only IDE I know that has actually created life. I'm not sure I want to hear the explanation of that or not :-) Greg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are s

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Christian Catchpole
Ide love to see some stats on eclipse related suicides. IntelliJ is the only IDE I know that has actually created life. On May 1, 1:48 am, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > I agree. We can return to the less controversial topic of which is the   > one true IDE. :) > On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:19 AM, Steven

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I agree. We can return to the less controversial topic of which is the one true IDE. :) On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:19 AM, Steven Herod wrote: > > Okay, I made light reference to it before - but I'll be more direct. > > How about we call it a draw and you guys take this conversation off > list? > > O

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Steven Herod wrote: > Okay, I made light reference to it before - but I'll be more direct. > > How about we call it a draw and you guys take this conversation off > list? > Sorry, I read your mail after sending mine. Finish for me. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwa

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Steven Herod
Okay, I made light reference to it before - but I'll be more direct. How about we call it a draw and you guys take this conversation off list? On Apr 30, 10:04 pm, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > remco wrote: > > Your post looks to much like rhetoric than like argument to me. > > Come on good people

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
remco wrote: > Your post looks to much like rhetoric than like argument to me. > Come on good people and bad people. Are you telling fairy-tails to > kids? > No, I am only telling people a simple fact that holds true since some thousands years and will hold true for all the remaining thousands

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Casper Bang
> Maybe is it as simple as: because I don't have to eat the junk food that > you're eating on the chair next to me? Have you ever flown coach? /Casper --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse"

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread remco
Your post looks to much like rhetoric than like argument to me. Come on good people and bad people. Are you telling fairy-tails to kids? And for a matter of fact In Europe where gun ownership is more restricted the number of gun death is a lot lower. You can not deny that the U.S has a big big pro

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-30 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
On Apr 29, 10:32 pm, Robert Fischer wrote: > Hunting is a peaceful purpose and a backbone of a lot of Americans' culture.   > And given that we've > killed off an inordinate and disproportionate number of the natural predators > for large herbivores, > it's also necessary for the healthy mainten

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread kirk
Hi, I just love bad reporting of statistics. It's one of my favorite topics. One example http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/peter_donnelly_shows_how_stats_fool_juries.html Enjoy, Kirk PS, it maybe best to shut this thread down before it poisons the list. Ryan Waterer wrote: > The next section

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Christian Catchpole
Makes me wonder why any of them like Java anyway since it's so slow. And only used for rippling water applets. :) On Apr 30, 9:21 am, Weiqi Gao wrote: > At lease Dick is up front with his hatred of the Groovy! > > It's the attitudes of the other three that are more questionable.  You > hear the

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Weiqi Gao
At lease Dick is up front with his hatred of the Groovy! It's the attitudes of the other three that are more questionable. You hear them say things like "type safety", "large applications", "performance", "xx times faster" all the time---all code words designed to slight The Groovy! :) <= I

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Christian Catchpole
On Apr 30, 9:09 am, Steven Herod wrote: > For instance, did you notice he didn't mention at all in any of his > holiday tweets? Yes, but this was for religious reasons. Which I shall now debate I'll shut up now.. :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Steven Herod
Yeah, I agree. He keeps saying he doesn't, but under that mild manner polite English exterior, there is an angry man who just wants to open a can of whoop ass on the Groovy. For instance, did you notice he didn't mention at all in any of his holiday tweets? On Apr 30, 9:04 am, Joshua Marinacci

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Why that's uttering ridiculous. Dick *hates* The Groovy. On Apr 29, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Steven Herod wrote: > > Guys (Gals?) > > One thing I've learned lately is that whilst we're all bound together > by a profession and a programming language, our individual world views > are often radically diffe

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Steven Herod
Guys (Gals?) One thing I've learned lately is that whilst we're all bound together by a profession and a programming language, our individual world views are often radically different. The advice of not talking about "religion, politics or sex" (aka social issues) is probably the best advice we

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I think the end result of our conversation should be: Yes, you should definitely come to JavaOne this year, despite any illnesses you may see on the news. JavaOne is going to be rockin'. :) On Apr 29, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Christian Catchpole wrote: > > Im resisting commenting on the debate... bu

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Christian Catchpole
Im resisting commenting on the debate... but here goes. :) I was always anti-gun. Probably because I live in Australia and hand- guns are not part of our culture the same way they are in the US. I've never held one. Only saw them on police men and in US gun shops. An American asked me how I co

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I suspect the discrepancy between the stats below and what I read, and what was reported by Ryan's safekids.org link is the definition of what is tracked. safekids.org refers to unintentional death by firearms, which is what people typically refer to when they want to not have guns at hom

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Ryan Waterer
The next section on the same page indicate ( http://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/Water-Safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.htm): - *Children:* In 2005, of all children 1 to 4 years old who died, almost 30% died from drowning.1 Although drowning rates have slowly declined,1, 3 fatal

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Casper Bang wrote: >> Joshua Marinacci wrote: >> It's the same reason we try to ban guns to protect children but not >> swimming pools, which kill far more kids. >> > > Spoken like a true American. The difference is of course pools serves > Well, I don't see the discriminator between true A

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Robert Fischer
Casper Bang wrote: > Spoken like a true American. The difference is of course pools serves > a rather peaceful purpose involving swimming, relaxing and cooling > off. No matter how you twist and turn it, guns are made to kill and > the days of the wild west are long gone. > Hunting is a peaceful

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Casper Bang
> Joshua Marinacci wrote: > It's the same reason we try to ban guns to protect children but not > swimming pools, which kill far more kids. Spoken like a true American. The difference is of course pools serves a rather peaceful purpose involving swimming, relaxing and cooling off. No matter how y

[The Java Posse] Re: "swimming pools, which kill far more kids"

2009-04-29 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Hmm... I seem to recall reading the stat in Freakonomics. I'll go look it up and get back to you. On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Paul LeBeau wrote: > > Joshua Marinacci wrote: > >> It's the same reason we try to ban guns to protect children but not >> swimming pools, which kill far more kids. >