Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-19 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
That they did. I mentioned it in the context of mumin claiming the EU is powerless to pressure US companies, something which is clearly false. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@goog

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-19 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/19/2010 11:34 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: We've established pretty definitively that the EU does not appear to cave into US political pressure. The Oracle <-> Sun case was generally agreed to be a no-problems deal. This is the part that confuses the heck out of me: Why are you jumping

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-19 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
We've established pretty definitively that the EU does not appear to cave into US political pressure. The Oracle <-> Sun case was generally agreed to be a no-problems deal. This is the part that confuses the heck out of me: Why are you jumping on the OracleSun takeover as proof that the EU can

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-19 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/19/2010 07:25 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: What the heck are you guys smoking? The EU is a governing body, not a bond villain. They had a bunch of fairly ill-considered problems with the sun / oracle deal. Despite enormous US political pressure they did not hurry up or drop their inve

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-18 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
What the heck are you guys smoking? The EU is a governing body, not a bond villain. They had a bunch of fairly ill-considered problems with the sun / oracle deal. Despite enormous US political pressure they did not hurry up or drop their investigation. When the investigation inevitably reported

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-18 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/18/2010 03:12 PM, Dereck Haskins wrote: >>guess your memory isn't what it used to be. European action held back the Oracle <-> Sun deal for many many months Yeah - that was a big victory for the EU. In the end nothing was accomplished at all. Google will change nothing and Brussels wil

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-18 Thread Dereck Haskins
>>guess your memory isn't what it used to be. European action held back the Oracle <-> Sun deal for many many months Yeah - that was a big victory for the EU. In the end nothing was accomplished at all. Google will change nothing and Brussels will cave. Always have, always will. On Sat, Dec 18

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-18 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
I guess your memory isn't what it used to be. European action held back the Oracle <-> Sun deal for many many months. If the EU wants to screw over american companies, they do it. We can start a new thread that'll no doubt go well into the triple digit post count on whether the EU was justified

Re: [The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-17 Thread Dereck Haskins
Damn. Up to now I pretty much had a 100% personal batting average when it comes to Stallman. IMO he mostly doesn't have a leg to stand on in ANY of his opinions. He is, in general, a clown. His previous programming work was excellent. His advocacy work has been less than zero. Peter Woit has

[The Java Posse] Stallman bashes Google Chrome (and Cloud Computing in general)

2010-12-17 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/15/stallman_on_chrome_os/ Pretty strong opinions: "I suppose many people will continue moving towards careless computing [the way Stallman calls cloud computing], because there's a sucker born every minute." Apart this fine and constructive statement, the