the pattern is to use the business key and retrieve process instances based on
that. Store domain data in your domain model and select from there which
process instance to retrieve. People still tend to put to much data in the
process as well as use the identity module to broadly. I never used t
security-role of user in the database
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why do you create a new context in the actionhandler?
and with TaskNode.addTask you change the processdefinition, not adding
additional tasks to the running instance
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Depends what you mean by an instance? If an instance is not doing anything, it
is just a database record and doing nothing. Multiple requests comming in from
e.g. a webapp will have their own thread until a node is reached that is
persistent e.g. a task or state.
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this is a generic hibernate 'issue' and just a *warning* nothing to be afraid
about. Using google or any other searchengine whould have given you this answer
as well
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cool btw... question 100% matching the subject of the message
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Ishara,
This is a very generic question. can you be more specific?
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Phill,
First one thing... if you want things to happen on each node-enter of each
node, you can make ONE action/event on the process level (not on the node
level. Saves you a lot of typing etc...
Secondly please create a minimal testcase (unittest) with embedded processes
(as a strings) that
I think you both are out of luck besides that, with a current jBPM you miss
a lot if you use the spring jbpm 3.1 templates (current version is 3.3).
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Yes, adapt the sourcecode of the JobExecutor... this is the safest thing. All
others 'solutions' probably have weird side-effects
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The classcast exception is already weird... Can you make a eclipse or maven
project with minimal code in it that demonstrates the problem? I can try to
reproduce here then
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huh? can't you use to different named context in one config? One pointing to a
hibernate config with persistance and one without?
USe
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then
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STFF.. .has been asked and answered and patience is a virtue
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Nowhere in the docs, examples etc.. it is mentioned that you should create a
context... None of the examples you can find in the source do this I've
not heard anybody do it... so I *don't* think the docs are the problem here..
and
anonymous wrote : I had to use
| jbpmContext.getSession().
In addition to my first statement... that is about creating contexts IN an
actionhandler
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is your mail node called? Turn on jbpm debug to see what happens, come on...
al ittle more proactive we are not here to help you step by step, you have
to provide us with lots more information... My answer now could be: "Are you
sure your computer is on? Because if it isn't the mailnode wi
put 2 jbpm-context in one config file and put a name attribute on each them
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1: jbpm 4 (well, the new console) provides BAM based on birt and jasperreports.
In additions SeeWhy is product that has jBPM integration
2: I don't think so
3: What is 'all features' jBPM has a basic set of features with which you can
create almost any workflow. In addition it has may ways of ex
Just read the jbpm 3 manual. Basic features and concepts will not change. More
detailed things like configurable task management, look of the
processdefinitions will.
Regarding BAM, there is not much documentation yet, but it will be
user-configurable,
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thanks for reporting back...
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thanks, will try it the coming days.
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what do you do? do you store all your domain data in the process?
processes that have ended have a date in their END_ column
Deleting those with recursion should work afaik.
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by usin g the api... get the active tokens of an instance recusively and check
what node they are in
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Recusrion is not supported, but as you can see in 'their' complicated view,
they use more atomic operations to achieve this. jBPM supoports almost all of
these atomic operations and with e.g. a decision you can create a loop (I know
looping is different, but I think a loop is better here than re
anonymous wrote : I thought that method getRootToken from an instance always
return the first token of the jPDL. it does ;-) but tokens have children, just
like children have parents :-)
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tripple post... .certainly does not help getting people motivated to respond
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I just checked the code and token.end(boolean verifyParentTermiation) is still
there So either I miss something or there is something wrong in your
unittest ;-)
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You have to write an actionhandler to do that (or custom code outside the
process)
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do you signal the token/node from the actionhandler? That is not good practice.
The only place to do it is in classes put on generic node (not task, start etc)
or a decision.
And the best thing is to make a unit test with embedded processdefinition and
actionhandlers as innerclasses to demonst
oh... and use asserts to show what you want to do and expect things to be. Not
system.out or logging
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I think this question belongs in the mule forums and it has most likely to
do with where the org.mule.providers.bpm.jbpm.actions.ValidateMessageSource
class is. Remember that you cannot use jbpm remotely from mule. It needs to
have access to the mentioned class(es)
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additional information), I have the same problem with jBPM (3.3.1.GA), MySQL
5.0.67, MySQL Connector 5.1.6, openJDK 6, with the XA configuration that comes
with jBPM. If I go back to a non-xa config it works. I (but
Hm ProcessInstance#end(boolean reactivateSuper) sounds a bit weird to me...
So I can imagine it was removed. Can you describe the usecase for this? Does it
have something to do with subprocesses which you want to end but not have it
signal the parent process?
What if you woud do change
a
ahh... ok it is signalling 'downwards' not upwards which you want not to happen
if I interpret this correctly.
But what do you mean then by
anonymous wrote : When ending a child token, it should stop directly.
|
Should I read this as
"If we cancel a childtoken on the main process, it (the
why do you do ti.remove? That is most likely the cause
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anonymous wrote : I'm currently struggling a little bit with the combination of
hibernate and logging in the jbp-jpd-3.2.3 suite.
You can't since it is jbpm-jpdl-3.2.3 ;-)
anonymous wrote :
| I haven't touched the logging setting in hibernate.cfg.xml because I'm
pretty sure they are just fin
Let me try to convince you
First of all it is not 1 stacktrace. There are 4 different ones (you see why
there are 4 different ones? They all start with ERROR on the line and a new
timestamp)
| ERROR 2009-01-08 15:01:15,795 [jBpmConnector.dispatcher.1]
org.jbpm.instantiation.Delegation: cou
That is another option I use the 'mem' option with an in-memory database
and when starting the app, I deploy the process to there. I also remove process
instances from the in-memory database when they end... works great
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Develop your own identiy system and plug that in jBPM. Extend the jbpm identity
system and each time a new version is released adapt it again.
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afaik, 3.1.0.GA was 3.2. compatible. Not sure when it 'broke' though since 3.2
is old Best thing to do and not realy complex is to try the one before
(3.1.5) and if it works, fine, if not, try the one before etc...
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anonymous wrote : Probably the right token that i have to signal is the token
of the subprocess, but i don`t think that such an exception should occur.
You are probably right that a nullpointer exception is what should happen
anonymous wrote :
| Hope there is a solution for this, because in
"tbeernot" wrote :
| Doesn't this cause cleanup issues? When sessions are terminated? Or better;
when the user simply cancels thus you never know it is terminated?
|
No, use an HttpSessionListener, declare it in the web.xml and implement the
sessionDestroyed method. In the session you can
anonymous wrote : Well, in one of you previous posts you said this:
|
| anonymous wrote :
| | One pointing to a hibernate config with persistance and one without?
| |
|
| "Without persistence", for me that means "no persistence" and not
"in-memory db", so I took hibernate out o
Ok ,,thanks.. and I made a typo... It should have said 'is *not* what should
happen, so we agree ;-)
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Dit gaat makkelijker of niet?
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server running to long in combination with to many deploy/undeploy actions...
restart server should help I think
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hmm. do you have a small unit test because I think the 'workaround' I
mentioned should work
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is the scheduler running?
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unittests can also store in DB... just extend the AbstractDBTestCase best
real-world representation.
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No, tonight
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what above testcase?
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Sigh.
MAKE A FULL TRIMMED DOWN UNITTEST WITH EMBEDDED PROCESSDEFINITION AND INNER
CLASSES FOR THE ACTIONHANDLER.
please..
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Yep, and I want a 'how to post to this forum' I'll write it, but Tom has got to
make it sticky
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anonymous wrote :
| I would like to know if it's possible to have periodic execution of a
certain workflow definition.
Yes
anonymous wrote :
| In case the answer is YES, and jBPM offers this scheduling functionality,
could anyone point me in the right direction ?
|
jBPM does not offe
ok, first of all, next time make a real unittest by extending
AbstractDBTestCase (took me 15 minutes now including correcting things like
first deploying the subprocess and then the main process.)
Secondly, you describe something in text where there is no code for... make
real assertions so I c
"dthi...@opencs.net" wrote : Is there anay samples which use CommandService
remotely ?
The unittests for the enterprise module do, so look in the jbpm source.
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I tried this and was able to run it inspite of a small error in your
processdefinition (task2 is in the processstate ;-) )
You signal the 'child-token' which is in the proces-state node, not in the
subprocess itself. So to me ending that does not signal any parent node. It
does transition this
Are there not by accident duplicate files on the classpath with different
content?
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uhhhmmm.. several do use jbpm.
http://www.jboss.org/jbossesb/
or maybe
http://www.mulesource.org/display/MULE2INTRO/Home
very easy to find with any searchengine
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might be, or someone in the forum that is willing to try to reproduce one
question... isn't the form by generated and this page just empty?
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anonymous wrote : I know jBPM 4 will have a new API, so I isolated all API code
and I should be able to migrate fairly easy.
Always a good choice
anonymous wrote : My questions:
| - Will jBPM 4.0 still be able to interprete the 3.2.3 XML process
definitions?
No, but a conversion that will y
what I personally do is just add the info to the processdedfinition and not
customize anything. Runtime I read the proceessdefinition from the database and
parse it into a org.w3c.Document and read the additional info. that is what you
could also do
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the plain jobexecutor is satarted via a servletlisteber/filter. read the docs
and/or search the forum
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maybe you should have asked earlier (or searched earlier?).
The suggestions are good btw, please file a jira issue for changing the
(java)docs
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Correct, the thing that came to mind is a good solution
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anonymous wrote : isn't it better to leave it open?
No
anonymous wrote : Is this a good practice?
Leaving open? No... Closing? Yes
anonymous wrote : I was thinking about using something similar to
openSessionInView for the jbpmContext (though I'm not sure how to do it)...It
is an option, bu
anonymous wrote : Unfortunately, because I need to do this between clusters and
to a particular queue, I am not able to leverage the "async" attribute in this
case.
Why not?
anonymous wrote : So, I am trying to figure out how to reference a token, and
correlate back to that token when I receive
anonymous wrote : Is this something a Redhat support contract would get an
answer on?
might be, or someone in the forum that is willing to try to reproduce
[quoteHelp...anyone? I tried to create a much simpler process, and the problem
persisted there as well. How can one get around this?
View
Sorry, wrong quoting...
anonymous wrote : Is this something a Redhat support contract would get an
answer on?
might be, or someone in the forum that is willing to try to reproduce
anonymous wrote : Help...anyone? I tried to create a much simpler process, and
the problem persisted there as well
closing and opening the context is not expensive afaik... recreating a new
JbpmConfiguration is!!!
anonymous wrote : I thought that maybe I could have the context get closed by
spring as soon as the entire transaction is finished
Yes that is an option, but just make sure that one transacti
That's why I use booleanconverters in JSF and put true/false in there. Works
for me...
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installation will not failif there is no jboss server. just point it to a
non-existing dir. in the install dir is a kib dir them with all jars
the menus were removed in the 3.1 designer afaik
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1: by using and learning jBPM. It's all possible
2: Encapsulation. hide important things in your own api
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manipulate the database, but at your own risk
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anonymous wrote : How can I integrate my EAIbus with jbpm?
If it is your eai bus, you probably know best.
anonymous wrote : there's a tutorial to do it?
If it is your eai bus, and you have not written one, there isn't.
jBPM documentation is here: http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v3.2/userguide/htm
or store data in your domain model and not in jBPM
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it can run as many as your db can store
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1: no, but you can put conditions on them
2: define 'something', and allowed for what...
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this is a question for the drools forum I think
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http://enterprisebpm.blogspot.com/
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probably not, and if you do not provide a unit test, I don't think many people
care to try to reproduce
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yes, afaik it is, IF you are using more than one datasource AND want to bind to
the JTA transactionmanager
The default installer has neither so does not use this
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uhh. bold conclusion... Might be that others did not bother to respond
because it has been asked and answered multiple times before.
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afaik all is installed in a jbpm subdir in the deploy directory... and
migrating to jBPM4? there was just a first alpha... a GA release is still many
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2: look in the server log 403 means you do not have access. e.g. because
the jbpm user tables are empty search the forum and wiki on how to populate
these.
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you may, but make sure each independent question is in its own topic
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not that we know of
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anonymous wrote : so the only way to get transactional..
no...
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version 4 is not 'out'. It is a first alpha. it will take 6-8 months before a
GA release will be there.
Regarding the api and jpdl, the API will not be backwards compatible, but from
4 on it will be. Otoh, if you encapsulate things in your own 'process access
object' like a dao, your changes w
In the api yes, in jpdl no. http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com for an example on
how (even more complex) things can be achieved
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first of all, what you describe is not realy ad-hoc task, since it is part of
the flow. For me, ad-hoc is out-of flow but part of the process, but that is
just me.
See planetjbpm.wordpress.com (milestone example) on how to create runtime tasks
that are defined in the process but not part of th
cause now I cannot 'see' what is going on and do I need to analyse the jBPM
code... If you have a unit test I can turn on the debuglevel, run the test and
see what is going on.
btw, you canb do both yourself if you do not want the help (=not wanting to
make a unit test)
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the jobs table afaik
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exactely like I always do it...
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Yes that is one thing (should be a jira issue for this afaik), but I had
changed that manually. My problem originated in the use of the mysql 5.1.6
driver, the 5.1.7 driver does not have that problem
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then use the api to suspend the fisrt process, start the new one and when it
finishes, resume the first process
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I do not adapt the jbpm-console. I leave that as is and use it what it is good
for, admin purposes. For normal usage I developed my own webapp.
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a) 1.5
b) please complain at the developer forum. You are correct that this info is
*still* hard to find and partially incorrect. Also complain at the
corresponding jira issue about the documentation and site... (have no link
sorry, jira is down for maintanance or something
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