[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-03-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kukeltje wrote : Glad to hear I'm an 'inspirator' You should start a sect, maybe they'll call you an 'instigator' than later :-P Cheers, Koen View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4135218#4135218 Reply to the post :

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-02-29 Thread kukeltje
The join in the websale example implies that the process cannot continue until *both* are finished. It might not be real-world compliant, but that's just how it was designed. Your finish-to-finish (one cannot finish before the other) requirement imo creates a dead-lock. They both have to

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-02-29 Thread pojomonkey
I tried putting a condition on a leaving transition - but that just complicates matters. kukeltje wrote : Why not simply introduce things like 'prepare shipment' that is where the ship item is now and move the ship item below the join Interesting thought - I could have a 'start' even before

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-02-29 Thread kukeltje
business process automation and the process design that is part of it is about thinking out of the box, the box in this case being the processes as people *perceive* them. Most of the time you cannot do this without business process redesign. Glad to hear I'm an 'inspirator' :-) View the

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-02-28 Thread pojomonkey
Despite now having got various scenarios working with forks, joins and sub-processes, I'm still not clear on how I can achieve finish-to-finish synchronisation except by some logic external to jBPM. I would welcome any thoughts on this. View the original post :

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-02-19 Thread pojomonkey
First of all, there are different tasks to be performed by different actors and furthermore, the tasks are starting at different times. So they are not 'sequential' as such - there is simply a constraint on them finishing in a particular order. If I stick them all on a single task node, or put

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-02-19 Thread pojomonkey
Just to clarify - rather than necessarily finish in a specific order, the tasks must not finish before one (or, in the general case, one or more) other task is finished. You have queried my use of fork, but are you really saying that fork is only appropriate where the tasks are entirely

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Synchronising tasks finish-to-finish

2008-02-16 Thread kukeltje
uhhmmm... why did you put them in forks if you want them in sequence (at least that is what you describe)? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4129853#4129853 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=4129853