Hi Bill, thanks for the advice, what i found, which didn't appear in the logs 
before, was 1 of my ejbs had some wrong annotations, this could be showing now 
because i changed the jndi name to something simpler to match the ds and 
persistence.xml

Caused by: org.hibernate.AnnotationException: No identifier specified for 
entity:

Anyway, i fixed the ejb and it all deploys works.  

Can i remove this from persistence.xml ?

<property name="jboss.no.implicit.datasource.dependency" value="true"/>

BTW Thanks for helping me pinpoint this error. Its User/My error.

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