On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 18:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You consider it ugly, I consider it facts.
That makes it ugly facts. > I asked on this list why Axis wasn't working and I got nothing. I went > to the JBoss forums where I found out you had to get the source and > recompile in order to get it working. Now consider this, the Axis stuff weren't even in JBoss when I started using JBoss. And one day, after downloading an interim point release of JBoss, I found the axis.jar in there. And I said to myself, "Somebody is interested in integrating this stuff into JBoss. Great! Maybe I'll start using it when it is done." Apparently it is not done. And it's quite a struggle to get it to working. So what, it's progress. If the thing really solves peoples problems (rather than satisfy a frivolous useless feature check mark for marketards), it will get used, and the bugs worked out. > I didn't have to do anything like that for Orion, WebSphere, the > defunct Borland offering, or WebLogic. Well, JBoss is an Open Source project, and those products aren't. And JBoss commands a critical mass now. All of these means that whatever shortcomings JBoss may have now, if it impacts a lot of people, will be eliminated in a relatively short period of time. > > I find your destructive stance of leaning back and expecting > > everything to run out of the box (without compilation) extremely > > odd. > > I don't find it odd at all. > > I used Ant right out of the box, as I did Struts, Tomcat, Apache, > JUnit.... I use JBoss out of the box. It all depends on which portion of the product you are using. > I'm doing this work on my limited spare time. If I had the time to > contribute, I would. As it stands, I don't see JBoss as being a > production ready tool. List ten concrete things in JBoss that's not working for you, and I'll see if I can contribute some of my also limited spare time to fix it up for you. [Note that I'm not an official JBoss developer. I'm just a user who sees a chance to give something back to the community, and potentially help a frustrated would be JBoss user.] -- Weiqi Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user