Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Julian Fitzell
On 25/09/2001 at 10:34 AM Jens Alfke wrote: >* What happens if you send an IM to a specific resource which is >offline? Does it bounce, does it go to the highest-priority online >resource, or is it queued until that resource logs on? If the latter, >then there might be a use in IM'ing an offli

Re: [JDEV] Bantu?

2001-09-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
I think they're centralized, but they do seem to offer either hosted solutions or local servers. They also power that wonderful teen site KiwiBox.com... ;) Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre email/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.saint-andre.com/ On 25 Sep 2001, temas wrote: > They are propri

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [JDEV] Non english messages solution?

2001-09-25 Thread Alex She
>Which im client? I am using winjabber.One OS is w2k(GBK), the other > is win98(big5). > I sent message to another, got many "?". I wrote a im client for Pockect pc , use embeded vc 3.00 by myself. I experienced such things, so many "?"[0x3f],just for wrong convert libary, if you need more hel

Re: [JDEV] XDB search

2001-09-25 Thread temas
Probably referring to me since you used my XDB++, and I think I'm the only person to use that so far ;-) It's still a conceptual thing, and I would love to have design talks around it. Anyone really interested in this should probably join the jablein dev list. I would also like people to ponder

Re: [JDEV] XDB search

2001-09-25 Thread Robert Norris
> Duh, I wasn't thinking here. I still need a mechanism to pass to xdb a > search parameter, like the filter to do the search in LDAP, or the actual > e-mail address to search on. Sooo, I pose the same question about adding an > xdb search to the already coded xdb set, and xdb get. Am I the onl

Re: [JDEV] Bantu?

2001-09-25 Thread temas
They are proprietary, I thought they were centralized too, but I could be wrong there. As for a patent pending on msg encryption, I have to give them a big "yeah right". If a patent is awarded in that area (even if it is a new algorithm), then it'll be highly contested. Encrypting XML isn't exa

[JDEV] Bantu?

2001-09-25 Thread Ragavan S
Hi, I was wondering if any of you had any experience with Bantu(www.bantu.com). I just heard about it from a friend of mine and checked out the website. Wasn't able to gather much information, except for their claims to be 'interoperable', 'secure', 'business-grade'. There isn't much descripti

Re: [JDEV] Non english messages solution?

2001-09-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
> That is a bug in WinJabber or in the version of Windows being used. > Please tell the WinJabber developers about it. And while we're at it, there is no client named WinJabber. WinJab, yes. WinJabber, no. Peter ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Jens Alfke
On Tuesday, September 25, 2001, at 02:51 AM, Michael Brown wrote: > The main problem was that I needed a three-phase icon (for when you get > an event from someone in a collapsed group), and couldn't think of > anything beyond the + and -.  Also, to replicate the +/- style usually > means sho

Re: [JDEV] Non english messages solution?

2001-09-25 Thread Jens Alfke
On Tuesday, September 25, 2001, at 02:36 AM, Gang Liu wrote: >Which im client? I am using winjabber.One OS is w2k(GBK), the other > is win98(big5). > I sent message to another, got many "?". OK, one ... more .. time ... That is a bug in WinJabber or in the version of Windows being used.

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Jay Curry
"Michael Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Don't worry, I'm not going to flame - I agree with what you're >> saying, but it's important to say why they (I suppose I should >> use the word 'we') build clients that appear ugly to a lot of >> people - I for one *hate* having to point and click a

RE: [JDEV] XDB search

2001-09-25 Thread Tim Ferguson
Duh, I wasn't thinking here. I still need a mechanism to pass to xdb a search parameter, like the filter to do the search in LDAP, or the actual e-mail address to search on. Sooo, I pose the same question about adding an xdb search to the already coded xdb set, and xdb get. Am I the only one th

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Michael Brown
> >Don't worry, I'm not going to flame - I agree with what you're > >saying, but it's important to say why they (I suppose I should > >use the word 'we') build clients that appear ugly to a lot of > >people - I for one *hate* having to point and click and follow > >cascading menus and have my scr

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Michael Brown
Re: http://www.aurora.gen.nz/jabber_design Some detailed points:* You make the point that the client should integrate into the operating system's GUI, but then you show Mac-style flippy triangles for the group show/hide controls on a Windows client. For it to be Windows-like it shoul

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Michael Brown
Thanks for the pointer Rikard. I didn't want to deviate too far from the traditional Windows interface that most people know, but I'm always interested in GUI design, so I will check out the links. I look forward to reading your ideas. Michael. - Original Message - From: "Rikard Linde

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Michael Brown
> Don't worry, I'm not going to flame - I agree with what you're > saying, but it's important to say why they (I suppose I should > use the word 'we') build clients that appear ugly to a lot of > people - I for one *hate* having to point and click and follow > cascading menus and have my screen c

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [JDEV] Non english messages solution?

2001-09-25 Thread Gang Liu
Alex She > >Mr Gang Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >why You use java as sever side ? I can not understand you. tell me if >> you can. >> I use java to write my own xdb module. The jabberd is from >> jabber.org. > I work hard to write xdb to oracle , I use xdb_sql and prco c language, and a >lo

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial

2001-09-25 Thread Michael Brown
Re: http://www.aurora.gen.nz/jabber_design Peter, thanks for the reply, but I was hoping for something a bit more helpful. There seems to be a large amount of people who are prepared to stand up and say "This looks like the ICQ interface which is Bad" but there are more productive ways to commen