Re: [jdev] XMPP Ping/Keepalive: Recommended method ?

2006-06-22 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Even with an empty presence payload like ? It means: I'm online with no status message (and not away/dnd/etc) - -- Maciek A: It's against natural order of reading. xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Q: Why is

RE: [jdev] XMPP Ping/Keepalive: Recommended method ?

2006-06-22 Thread JD Conley
Yup. An empty presence has just as much impact/meaning (aside from network utilization and obviously some processing time) as one with status information or other payload data.   -JD   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, J

Re: [jdev] XMPP Ping/Keepalive: Recommended method ?

2006-06-22 Thread ennova2005-jabber
Even with an empty presence payload like ?p.s  Answering below quoted text  is similarly annoying for people with mobile email clients where only the first X bytes are retrieved by default ;-)- Original Message From: Maciek Niedzielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Jabber software development lis

Re: [jdev] XMPP Ping/Keepalive: Recommended method ?

2006-06-22 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Assuming (for legacy reasons), the only injection point available in > the code for this uni-directional "keepalive" is a message or > presence packet, how "bad" is it to send a to the server > (vs. say a jabber:iq:version o

RE: [jdev] XMPP Ping/Keepalive: Recommended method ?

2006-06-22 Thread JD Conley
Sending a to a server is probably the worst thing you could possibly do for a keep-alive. J Aside from login and logout, and some more complicated JEP’s like MUC or PubSub, it’s the most intensive operation an XMPP server performs and in most cases causes multiple hits to the back end data

Re: [jdev] XMPP Ping/Keepalive: Recommended method ?

2006-06-22 Thread ennova2005-jabber
Assuming (for legacy reasons), the only injection point available in the code for this uni-directional "keepalive" is a message or presence packet, how "bad" is it to send a to the server  (vs. say a jabber:iq:version or jabber:iq:time) ?Will most servers ignore this safely and will it be consider

RE: [jdev] [ANN] Wildfire 3.0 Beta and Wildfire Enterprise

2006-06-22 Thread Matt Tucker
Stephen, It's essentially doing connection aggregation. And, yes, the client maintains the connection to the CM for the life of the session. To a client, the CM looks exactly like any normal XMPP server. The are some other interesting use cases for CM's. For example, an external HTTP binding prox

RE: [jdev] [ANN] Wildfire 3.0 Beta and Wildfire Enterprise

2006-06-22 Thread Stephen Pendleton
Matt, out of interest - does the connection manager aggregate many c2s connections into a smaller set of streams or does it handle the authentication process and pass authenticated streams to the Wildfire server or does it do something else? Does the client maintain a connection to the connection m