Re: [jdev] Help choosing the right technology

2012-11-18 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
get you out of the 128 octet FACH threshold. With compression you should be able to send a fair amount of data comfortably. As always, though, test it out before committing to it - it may not be worth the additional interopability headaches. -- Jonathan Dickinson

Re: [jdev] Question on Presence, Invisibility and MUC

2012-10-24 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Just a thought, untested: re-join the rooms the user is on after going invisible? -- Jonathan Dickinson Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:56:57 +0300 From: blueob...@gmail.com To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Question on Presence, Invisibility and MUC Hi Guys, Can I know the procedure

Re: [jdev] sasl error on multiple auth/?

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Most probably not-authorized / as that is your you shouldn't be doing that here error during stream negotiation: The entity has attempted to send XML stanzas or other outbound data before the stream has been authenticated, or otherwise is *not authorized to perform an action related to stream

Re: [jdev] [XEP-0060] Notifications of subscribtions (subscription on subscriptions)

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
nodes like [node]:subscribed e.g. princely_musings:subscribed. I am sure it wouldn't be too hard to extend existing pubsub components to support that. -- Jonathan Dickinson ___ JDev mailing list Info: http

Re: [jdev] subscriber to receive all un-received items

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
). You can filter out duplicated by using the item @id attribute. -- Jonathan Dickinson ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___

Re: [jdev] oAuth equivalent for for XMPP?

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
?(Sorry for top-reply, live.com has problems with signed emails) It's quite possible to XMPP-ize OAuth. Just took a look at the protocol (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5849). Essentially: 1. printer.example.com advertises OAuth feature (http://oauth.net/:o-auth). 2. Client selects O-AUTH and

Re: [jdev] XMPP vs IMAP

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
?-- From: Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:40 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] XMPP vs IMAP On Fri Nov 5 07:54:03 2010, Softish soft wrote: ... ... Also

Re: [jdev] Help required regarding XMPP client for Windows Mobile 7

2010-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi Waqar, From what I remember newer versions of Silverlight do support sockets. At any rate, if you can't use sockets then BOSH is your solution (http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0206.html). Writing an XMPP client API is a big undertaking, none-the-less here are the specs (you will need to

Re: [jdev] 访问我的Netlog个人主页

2010-08-17 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
*Sigh* can't we do something about the social network invites and out of facility messages? -- From: herve.fayo...@criticalpath.net Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:28 AM To: gaodengm...@gmail.com; jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev]

Re: [jdev] Google Wave being phased out

2010-08-06 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-- From: Tom Pusateri pusat...@bangj.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:54 AM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Google Wave being phased out I studied Google Wave for a few hours to try and figure out

Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP?

2010-07-12 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-- From: Matthew Wild mwi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:54 AM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP? On 10 July 2010 22:39, Yves Goergen nospam.l...@unclassified.de

Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP?

2010-07-12 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-- From: Jonathan Dickinson jonat...@dickinsons.co.za Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:37 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP

Re: [jdev] Claims-based Authentication

2010-06-04 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:54:48 -0600 From: stpe...@stpeter.im To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Claims-based Authentication On 6/3/10 7:48 AM, Jonathan Dickinson wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:41:25 -0600 From: stpe...@stpeter.im To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev

Re: [jdev] Claims-based Authentication

2010-06-03 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
. This would probably land up being an XMPP-specific thing that would indicate how to do authentication exchanges using XML-based protocols (like WSF); but that is a big hunch on my part. On 5/31/10 8:18 AM, Jonathan Dickinson wrote: Hi All, I have been doing some research lately on claims

[jdev] Claims-based Authentication

2010-05-31 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
(it is not tied to the web). For those who are not familiar with it; it basically is an identity that consists of one or more claims. For example a Jabber claim might look like this: JID: jonath...@jabber.org UPN: jonath...@jabber.org Name: Jonathan Dickinson from VCard etc. In this scenario jabber.org

Re: [jdev] HTTP gateway

2010-05-24 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Theo ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___ -- Jonathan Dickinson

Re: [jdev] Multiplexing large number of client connections

2010-01-25 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
There is definitely interest on my side. I will basically have a single client that other processes connect to via IPC - the cleanest solution would be resources, although the client could always open up new connections. In any case it would be great for scenarios like mine (basically

Re: [jdev] Multiplexing large number of client connections

2010-01-24 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
You can 'multiplex' multiple resources into one stream. Not sure about server support though. -Original Message- From: Norman Rasmussen nor...@rasmussen.co.za Sent: 23 January 2010 05:46 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Multiplexing large

Re: [jdev] plaintext passwords hack

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Sorry for not conforming to the list standards, I am on my mobile. Logins taking a long time is advantageous, remember we are not a primitive/chatty protocol like HTTP; so burning CPU cycles during a login is a VERY small problem; people often forget that we are not in the same realm of HTTP.

Re: [jdev] Check out my photos on Facebook

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Seems a little desperate/lonely... Opted out from Facebook notifications - shouldn't happen again. -Original Message- From: Soumyadipta De invite+m~hw3...@facebookmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:06 PM To: Jdev@jabber.org jdev@jabber.org Subject: [jdev] Check out my photos on

[jdev] SAML

2009-07-06 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Has anyone thought about how SAML [Security Assertion Markup Language] would work in terms of SASL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saml and XMPP? This is especially interesting regarding the whole OpenID/SSO discussion a while back; SAML isn't bound to HTTP or any other client for that matter

Re: [jdev] [Fwd: Alertbox: Stop Password Masking]

2009-06-25 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of David Conradie Sent: 25 June 2009 08:38 AM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] [Fwd: Alertbox: Stop Password Masking] What about my co-worker peering over my shoulder while I type in my password?

Re: [jdev] Jabber Login with OpenID

2009-06-12 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of Tomasz Sterna Sent: 12 June 2009 09:13 AM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Jabber Login with OpenID Dnia 2009-05-22, pią o godzinie 14:39 +0200, Bernhard

Re: [jdev] Jabber Login with OpenID

2009-06-03 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: 03 June 2009 06:18 AM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Jabber Login with OpenID -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On

Re: [jdev] Regarding XMPP Voice Message Processing

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of Charles Zhou Sent: 11 May 2009 10:43 AM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Regarding XMPP Voice Message Processing [...] The flow in our application now is as below:

Re: [jdev] [ANN] Apache Vysper and GSoC project

2009-04-23 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of Sylvain Hellegouarch Sent: 22 April 2009 12:40 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] [ANN] Apache Vysper and GSoC project [...] I'm puzzled since XMPP servers

[jdev] SASL (again)

2009-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All, RFC 4616 implies that it is possible to store a digest for CRAM-MD5 in the database (just above 3. Pseudo-Code). From what I can tell you need to store a plain-text password (at best the XORed passwords, which is pointless). A CRAM digest is created as follows: MD5( (K XOR opad),

[jdev] Digest URIs for XMPP

2009-04-14 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I am busy doing the SASL lib for my server/client (almost completely finished with DIGEST-MD5). I was just wondering what the common practice is for digest-uris with varying ports. Some people use them as follows: Port 80: http/www.foo.com Port 8080: http/www.foo.com Where others: Port 80:

Re: [jdev] Using XMPP to talk to a mobile client

2009-04-09 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of Fabio Forno Sent: 08 April 2009 11:38 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Using XMPP to talk to a mobile client On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Thiranjith .

[jdev] APML and PubSub

2009-04-01 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All, I thought someone might want to do something interesting with this technology. APML allows users to share their own personal Attention Profile in much the same way that OPML allows the exchange of reading lists between News Readers. The idea is to compress all forms of Attention Data

Re: [jdev] Mixing Attribute Namespaces

2009-03-06 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of Fabio Forno Sent: 06 March 2009 11:24 AM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Mixing Attribute Namespaces ... Taken from the perspective of 4/5 years of XMPP

Re: [jdev] Mixing Attribute Namespaces

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org] On Behalf Of Fabio Forno Sent: 04 March 2009 10:08 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Mixing Attribute Namespaces On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Peter Saint-Andre

Re: [jdev] Google App Engine will support XMPP

2009-02-11 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Twitter actually used to support XMPP. Since they have 'lost' the server I haven't really had the motivation to use their service. And they thought XMPP was their load problem? *cough* polling *cough*. -Original Message- From: jdev-boun...@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-boun...@jabber.org]

Re: [jdev] New to Jabber

2008-12-31 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Sorry for not conforming to the list standards: I am using a web view. You should find a library in your native tongue (so to speak) here: http://xmpp.org/software/libraries.shtml EJabberd sounds like the cherry on top of the christmas cake to me, so maybe start with that. If erlang is too big

Re: [jdev] Free jabber services

2008-12-12 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
By the way gtalk is the only client that can traverse my work proxy (ISA on domain), no matter how long I fiddle with proxy settings... I tried using my account name, my SAM account name and nothing works. Sent from my Windows Mobile® phone. -Original Message- From: javanesevn

[jdev] Formal Component Protocol

2008-11-12 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All (esp. PSA :)), One thing that I have seen with my experiences so far is that there is practically no formal component protocol. http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0114.html only shows us how to establish a stream. Things that nag me (which I still have to figure out, so if you have

Re: [jdev] Talk To Jabber Server Using Sockets

2008-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ashiraz Sent: 10 November 2008 07:49 AM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Talk To Jabber Server Using Sockets Unlike the world of unix/ linux if one clicks on an installer in windows everything

[jdev] BOM

2008-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All, What's the official stance on BOM (Byte order marks)? I have had to specifically remove them because most client (e.g. Cocinnella) sporadically break if they are there (strangely, first time you try to log in, after that it's fine). The client says unexpected char [] (where the block

Re: [jdev] BOM

2008-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
am on my phone. -Original Message- From: Waqas Hussain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2008 09:07 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] BOM On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, What's

Re: [jdev] Any quick/ simple c/c++ libraries/tutorials?

2008-11-02 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
You can interop with native code using java (sorry, but that is the extent of my knowledge of doing that in java, I don't know how). http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/javatips/jw-javatip17.html I am not trying to insult you here, because this really does apply to me as well: if you can't get

[jdev] Username-based SASL Mechanisms

2008-10-31 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All, This is a rather strange one. Is there any support for determining SASL mechanisms based on the user's name? I [will] have a bunch of authentication providers, such as EXTERNAL, SQL, SAP, NTLM, Kerberos, Open-Id etc. These can be located on the component itself or on another component

Re: [jdev] Username-based SASL Mechanisms

2008-10-31 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
authentication either sasl or non-sasl for all users and then using appropriate authentication back-end by the server based on the user name would be the best solution. This is probably what I would do. Artur On 31 Oct 2008, at 14:38, Jonathan Dickinson wrote: Hi All, This is a rather strange one

Re: [jdev] xmpp javascript

2008-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I looked at it, are you sure it's xmpp? It looks like it's an http4 implementation of http5 websockets. I didn't see any references to xmpp (except in an article where he said it was hard to get right, and doesn't agree with gmail using it???). Is there a xmpp layer for it? I might well play

Re: [jdev] PubSub subscription stanzas

2008-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hey julien, I know this has nothing to do with your question (i will read the spec tomorrow if somebody doesn't beat me to it), take more care about exposing your email on public mailing lists :), spambait. Sent from my Windows Mobile® phone. From: Julien

[jdev] Multiple Resources One Connection

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All, I know this is a bit strange, but it would be really interesting to know if it's supported (server wise). Can I bind multiple resources to one client connection? The scenario I am thinking about is using a connection on the host machine when a mobile device (specifically a Windows

Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby

2008-10-03 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Remko Tronçon Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:24 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby ... Only resort to threads when you *really* have a

Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby

2008-10-03 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Will Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 1:49 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby ... Like I said, I don't really know anything about

Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby

2008-10-02 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Maybe it is something that is amiss in the Ruby world? Why not try to get REXML to handle streaming XML? Throwing and catching exceptions on a server on a regular basis isn't the best idea (the same reason why we don't continually give ourselves papercuts and stick a plaster on them). There

Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby

2008-10-02 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dickinson Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:09 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby Maybe it is something that is amiss in the Ruby world? Why not try to get REXML to handle streaming XML? Throwing and catching

Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby

2008-10-02 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Will Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:26 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby ... I don't know what a push parser is, and Google seems

Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby

2008-10-02 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
they don't really have scalability issues) and it could introduce subtle errors such as: node [CDATA[ /node Something ]] /node -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dickinson Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 7:49 AM To: Jabber/XMPP

Re: [jdev] parsing xml (xmpp) with ruby

2008-09-30 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I can give you a XML parser in C# that you can port. I have had no problems with it so far and I have been using it for a couple of months. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Maka Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:40 AM To:

Re: [jdev] How to automaticallly accept presence subscription requests?

2008-09-29 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
You might try responding with both. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reman Child Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:38 AM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: [jdev] How to automaticallly accept presence subscription requests? I'm trying to build a jabber bot, and I'm stuck

Re: [jdev] PubSub subscriber question...

2008-09-14 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Remember, PubSub messages sent to you (if wrapped in a message stanza) will be retained by your server if you are offline. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:52 AM To: Jabber/XMPP

Re: [jdev] Jabber - Core banking (ISO-8583)

2008-09-11 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
. -Original Message- From: rxw1510 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 September 2008 08:37 PM To: jdev@jabber.org jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] Jabber - Core banking (ISO-8583) Jonathan Dickinson;3468 Wrote: Hi Reno, I am browsing through the Wikipedia page right now. Firstly, you would need

Re: [jdev] Jabber - Core banking (ISO-8583)

2008-09-09 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi Reno, I am browsing through the Wikipedia page right now. Firstly, you would need to create a gateway. There are docs on how to do this else-where. This gateway would have a number of JIDs that represent each bank (obviously always present). You would then send iq stanzas to this

Re: [jdev] Research Assistance

2008-09-04 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:32 PM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: [jdev] Research Assistance Hi, My name is Anisa Ragalo. I am a Masters in Computer Science student at the

Re: [jdev] SMTP-style relaying for XMPP?

2008-08-27 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I am actually looking at this right now as a sort of Push-style email. The only worry is that it will introduce SPAM into the XMPP network. Essentially the XMPP server will need a SMTP gateway (which is a SMTP server itself), after that it should be peanuts. What you could also do is to create

Re: [jdev] SMTP-style relaying for XMPP?

2008-08-27 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Oh, you should look at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saintandre-xmpp-simple-10 for the mappings between XMPP and SMTP, as SIMPLE has a SMTP-loving syntax. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Anderson Sent: Wednesday, August

Re: [jdev] SMTP-style relaying for XMPP?

2008-08-27 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Subject: Re: [jdev] SMTP-style relaying for XMPP? On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is pretty attractive. I think that might be in the eye of the beholder... /K ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http

Re: [jdev] SMTP-style relaying for XMPP?

2008-08-27 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
As he noted his admin is a ogre. I sounds like the only ports available on his intranet are the email ones. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dobson Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:56 AM To: Jabber/XMPP software development

Re: [jdev] SMTP-style relaying for XMPP?

2008-08-27 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
? Jonathan Dickinson wrote: As he noted his admin is a ogre. I sounds like the only ports available on his intranet are the email ones. Maybe we need BOSS (Bidirectional-streams Over Synchronous SMTP)? ;) -- Maciek xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?

2008-08-20 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
You can probably get away with most licenses by seeing the file as opaque and loading it at boot up. I.e. You don't copy and paste a single thing from it, rather you read it and fill internal tables and whatnot. But I would _really_ like to do client lookups via a .Net resx file, and I am sure

Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?

2008-08-19 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
The real challenge would be the licensing. Public domain on CC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lastwebpage Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:22 PM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [jdev] jabber localization project? I haven't

Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?

2008-08-17 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
How about some central XML file? A front-end for the XML file could be built to allow translators to go in and add their stuff. This way we could _realistically_ start making use of the xml:lang attribute on the stream. E.g. messages errors resource-not-found neutral The resource

Re: [jdev] Eventing and SOAP

2008-08-12 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Eventing and SOAP Jonathan Dickinson wrote: Hi All, I am looking at the integration points for my server now (specifically into the product that my employer develops). It is a workflow solution (www.k2.net http://www.k2.net), and I am

Re: [jdev] Loudmouth 1.4.1 released

2008-07-31 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Nice -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikael Hallendal Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:44 PM To: Loudmouth List; jdev@jabber.org Subject: [jdev] Loudmouth 1.4.1 released What is Loudmouth? Loudmouth is a small C library for writing

Re: [jdev] new IM client project with wxwidgets gui

2008-07-21 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
How is this related to XMPP? From what I can tell libretroshare has its own protocol. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Peterson Sent: 21 July 2008 12:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jdev@jabber.org Subject: [jdev] new IM client project with

[jdev] Not Sure if this has been bought up

2008-07-19 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Looks exciting. http://brainspl.at/articles/2008/06/02/introducing-vertebra ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info:

Re: [jdev] [OT] XMPP icons

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I think this is a good idea. Sander has enlightened me to GTalk's success, it is because they don't confuse users with terms such as Jabber and XMPP, however, it is important to remember your roots. How about having a 'slogan' under Instant Messaging Client with Whiteboard saying Powered by

Re: [jdev] Issues in XMPP javascript libraries

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi Rohan, BOSH is what Javascript libraries would use to communicate with a XMPP server (remember, Javascript cannot send raw data over the network, all comms must occur over HTTP). What this means to you is that: 1. No client set up is needed. The javascript libraries (should) include

Re: [jdev] [OT] XMPP icons

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I think the main problem (I am no expert) is that most average people see websites as atomical. They connect to live.com and are provided with a IM client that brands itself as live.com etc. The same goes for Hotmail/Gmail/etc. Jabber can be confusing in that most users are used to connecting

Re: [jdev] [OT] XMPP icons

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Monitzer Sent: 07 July 2008 11:23 AM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] [OT] XMPP icons ... Well, people on Gmail or Hotmail don't assume that they can only email

Re: [jdev] Issues in XMPP javascript libraries

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Subject: Re: [jdev] Issues in XMPP javascript libraries Hi Jonathan, Thanks a lot for your reply. You have cleared my confusion. Coming back to my first question, can anyone who has used XMPP4JS or JSJac know how to troubleshoot the issue. -Rohan On 7/7/08, Jonathan Dickinson

Re: [jdev] Issues in XMPP javascript libraries

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
. Or is it not? -Rohan On 7/7/08, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rohan, I don't think you will need to troubleshoot anything if you connect to a BOSH capable server. Try that first and see if you have any luck... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [jdev] Issues in XMPP javascript libraries

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dickinson Sent: 07 July 2008 01:19 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Issues in XMPP javascript libraries Maybe your client library doesn't support X-AUTH-GOOGTOKEN (a google extension to XMPP). Try

Re: [jdev] Issues in XMPP javascript libraries

2008-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
error. any ideas on alternative to this javascript XMPP library? You can try strophe. http://metajack.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/strophe-preview-xmpp-in-javascript/ On 7/7/08, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe your client library doesn't support X-AUTH

Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc

2008-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Smith Sent: 01 July 2008 12:39 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc As to the proposed problem with message loops, have we ever

Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc

2008-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I think the base problem here is that people don't read. I may set my status to DND, but I promise you I will get some idiot contact wanting to partake in some small talk. I think the solution, really, would be the flashing red lights and 'do you feel lucky punk' as Pedro said. Ultimately this

Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc

2008-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Smith Sent: 01 July 2008 04:01 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL

Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc

2008-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Cridland Sent: 01 July 2008 04:53 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc On Tue Jul 1 14:50:49 2008, Jonathan Dickinson wrote

Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc

2008-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Cridland Sent: 01 July 2008 08:40 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Do Not Disturb, Directed Presence, etc On Tue Jul 1 17:10:14 2008, Jonathan Dickinson wrote: I know this goes against the grain

[jdev] Open Auth

2008-06-30 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi People, Seems like people are taking OAuth seriously. Google has (apparently) recently rolled out support for it. Quoted: This is what OAuth does, it allows the you the User to grant access to your private resources on one site (which is called the Service Provider), to another site

Re: [jdev] Use cases of SOAP over XMPP

2008-06-24 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
it as a transport. However the documentation does not exist on how to use it. After seeing your query, I have started writing a small how-to document. I will post a message with the URL once I am done. Thank you. /sumedha On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[jdev] Routing

2008-06-23 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hey All, You will need a monospace font for this one :). Can anyone give me some advice on this problem? From what I can tell, currently routers are a congestion point for all components. E.g. ++ | ROUTER +-S2S +---++ | C2S As you can see the performance of the whole server

Re: [jdev] Routing

2008-06-23 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomasz Sterna Sent: 23 June 2008 02:27 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Routing Dnia 2008-06-23, pon o godzinie 13:42 +0200, Jonathan Dickinson pisze: Thus each stanza would make a complete trip round the network (2 at worst

Re: [jdev] Routing

2008-06-23 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedro Melo Sent: 23 June 2008 03:20 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Routing ... Get an Google Account. Log into Google Talk. Look at the resource you get back from

Re: [jdev] conversing with multiple users, but not MUC

2008-06-19 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
I think we are all chasing things around in circles here. o This is all supported by XEP-0033http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0033.html o No servers support it o No clients support it Jehan to clarify your code (according to XEP-0033): -- message to='[EMAIL

Re: [jdev] conversing with multiple users, but not MUC

2008-06-19 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dickinson Sent: 19 June 2008 04:08 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] conversing with multiple users, but not MUC ... PSA and JH made a really good job

Re: [jdev] OT: MOA alerts via PubSub

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Very cool Pedro. This is the type of thing that shows the true power of XMPP. It's great that there XMPP is making it's way into the science community: as soon as a couple of teams get the hang of it, it should spread like wildfire (or Openfire :)). Well done!!! -Original Message-

Re: [jdev] xmpp4r component development

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hey Adam, A load-balancable bot? I assume that means that your chatbot can have x amounts of real contacts. The XMPP specs would indicate that you would need to give each a separate resource. One idea (not 100% XMPP compliant): since components can alter user's rosters how about providing the

Re: [jdev] xmpp4r component development

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
/JanebodySend a nurse./body/message Nurse/Jill: message from=nurse/Jane to=julietbodyOn her way./body/message HTH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dickinson Sent: 18 June 2008 02:08 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list

Re: [jdev] S2S

2008-06-16 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Thanks guys. Looks like I will have to do a NS transform on my readers/writers... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Hildebrand Sent: 13 June 2008 06:57 PM To: Jabber/XMPP software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] S2S On Jun

Re: [jdev] Jabber presence traffic characterization

2008-06-09 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
need to simulate network traffic during long periods of inactivity on mobile Internet tablets. [Jonathan Dickinson] Good luck! One focus application would be Jabber, and I was wondering what would be the traffic pattern for a scenario in which a Jabber client is running on a mobile Internet

[jdev] .Net XML Dom Stuff

2008-06-06 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All, For those of you who are interested, I have found a work-around for the classical DOM issues and streams in .Net (large DOM after a busy client). The solution is obvious if you think about it and I have no idea why I didn't come up with it before. Simply delete the elements from the

Re: [jdev] Web User Interface

2008-06-06 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
The problem with this is that each server has its own database configuration (i.e. tables names whatnot). What server are you using? Another option (which I am pretty sure doesn't exist) is having the server connect on the user's behalf and doing what you have described: but as I said,

Re: [jdev] XEP XSL

2008-06-04 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
] XEP XSL Thanks. Is this spec element different from the one in the head of the document? On 05/23/2008 5:09 AM, Jonathan Dickinson wrote: Hi All, I appropriated the XEP XSL for use in one of the projects I am working on. I found one thing, the spec element could really become useful

Re: [jdev] How is a client crash communicated to the XMPP server?

2008-06-03 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Unfortunately not all clients are 100% XMPP compliant. I am certain that most will give you a /stream:stream at the end: so if a client disconnects without that they /should/ have quit unexpectedly. Conversant XMPP Communicator: /stream:stream Coccinella: presence type='unavailable'/

Re: [jdev] How is a client crash communicated to the XMPP server?

2008-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Good question. You will find that the Coversant XMPP communicator does not send a presence type=unavailable/ stanza when it logs out. From what I can tell is that most servers will do that on behalf of the client: it caused me a few minutes of debugging :). If you want to tell when the client

[jdev] XEP XSL

2008-05-23 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Hi All, I appropriated the XEP XSL for use in one of the projects I am working on. I found one thing, the spec element could really become useful. For example: See spec0001/spec on how to write XEP documents. Here are the changes I made: xsl:template match='spec' mode='list' xsl:param

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