[jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Steven Peterson
I am considering building a Jabber hosting service where users can have accounts under their own domain names. It's kind of like Dreamhost's Jabber service, except that my service will not have web hosting or email :-). The XMPP spec does not accommodate some of the things that I'd like to do. At

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Alexey Nezhdanov
В сообщении от Четверг 15 Сентябрь 2005 10:02 Steven Peterson написал(a): I am considering building a Jabber hosting service where users can have accounts under their own domain names. It's kind of like Dreamhost's Jabber service, except that my service will not have web hosting or email :-).

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 11:02 pm, Steven Peterson wrote: Server dialback will work for my service, but the XMPP spec says that dialback is documented for backward-compatiblity only. Is dialback disappearing, or is it still in active use? I know the open source servers support dialback.

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Richard Dobson
1) DNS and s2s My users' domain name will most likely resolve to a web host and not to my service. The authors of the XMPP spec anticipated this scenario by specifying the use of SRV records to find the XMPP server for a domain. That's all fine and dandy, except that I have not seen a DNS host

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Hal Rottenberg
2) TLS and s2s My users will not have certs for their domains, and even if they did, I wouldn't want to be responsible for keeping their private keys secret. TLS is not an option for my service. Why not? You might think about obtaining cacert certs during provisioning as a part of your

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Steven Peterson
The forced host name is not relevant to TLS, just like the IP address that it resolves to. All that matters is the desired Jabber domain. Users have a bad enough time trying to determine whether or not something is secure, and adding further rules/exceptions would only make it worse. The

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Justin Karneges
On Thursday 15 September 2005 04:56 pm, Steven Peterson wrote: The forced host name is not relevant to TLS, just like the IP address that it resolves to. All that matters is the desired Jabber domain. Users have a bad enough time trying to determine whether or not something is secure,

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Trejkaz
2) TLS and s2s My users will not have certs for their domains, and even if they did, I wouldn't want to be responsible for keeping their private keys secret. TLS is not an option for my service. Why not? You might think about obtaining cacert certs during provisioning as a part of your