RE: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-31 Thread dlb
Here's an article on LVS ( Linux Virtual Server ) that gives an overview of various clustering and load balancing approaches - http://www.linux-mag.com/2003-11/clusters_01.html. And here's a more formal review which gives specifics on some of the optimizations involved - http://cs.uccs.edu/~cs526/l

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-31 Thread Richard Dobson
Yup although for a truely scalable solution you wouldnt want to rely on a single sql server, you would want the servers to replicate the routing data themselves and store that data in memory for maximum speed and to help keep the load of your sql servers. So you are saying have a server that rou

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-30 Thread Jon Phillips
Richard Dobson wrote: Were I designing it, I'd have a login server, which validates you and then hands you a new place to connect to, for your actual sustained connection. All data is shared between the servers (or rather, replicated between them; SQL is your friend), and you just get handed o

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-29 Thread Richard Dobson
Were I designing it, I'd have a login server, which validates you and then hands you a new place to connect to, for your actual sustained connection. All data is shared between the servers (or rather, replicated between them; SQL is your friend), and you just get handed off to whatever actual

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-28 Thread Rachel Blackman
How many concurrent users does MSN or AIM have I wonder, and how is scalability dealt with in their systems, which are obviously proprietary IM protocols. Were I designing it, I'd have a login server, which validates you and then hands you a new place to connect to, for your actual sustained co

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-28 Thread Tijl Houtbeckers
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:19:09 -0500, dlb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dobson Right now we have moved all jabber services to its own box ... You will need an architechture that distributes components of the server over multiple

RE: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-28 Thread dlb
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dobson > Right now we have moved all jabber services to its own box ... >> You will need an architechture that distributes components of the server over multiple physical servers. Before you commit to a server, you might wan

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-28 Thread Richard Dobson
I've implemented a jabber client that uses jabberd2 open source server and we are going to need it to scale to well above the 1 million concurrent users mark. You wont be able to with jabberd2, its not intended to be used to that sort of scale, you will need to pay money out and get a commercial

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-27 Thread Jon Phillips
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dobson Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:28 PM To: Jabber software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user If it is not important to have the same domain na

RE: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-21 Thread Bresler, Jonathan
.html Jonathan M Bresler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Trejkaz Sent: Fri 1/21/2005 5:43 AM To: Jabber software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user On Friday 21 January 2005 08:54, Tom Coffin wrote: > If you&#x

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-21 Thread Trejkaz
On Friday 21 January 2005 08:54, Tom Coffin wrote: > If you're serious about million user capacity, I really think you need > to go commercial. Of course you'd also need to get off of Linux and go > to Solaris too. Get yourself some big Sun servers with lots of > processors. Get Oracle. Put it

RE: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-20 Thread Tom Coffin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dobson Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:28 PM To: Jabber software development list Subject: Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user > If it is not important to have the same domain

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-07 Thread Richard Dobson
If it is not important to have the same domain name for the one million users then the solution is trivial - just deploy f.e.100 servers with 1 users on each. :) You dont have to have them on different domain names to be able to have 100 servers, you just use a jabber server with a distribut

Re: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-07 Thread Alexey Nezhdanov
В сообщении от Четверг 06 Январь 2005 01:39 Zhang Erning написал(a): > Thanks all of you reply my post > > Yes, I'm working for a company similar to ISPs. We're going to offer > free IM service to customers. > > People might ask is it possible to let 1 million concurrent users to > use our service.

RE: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-06 Thread Bresler, Jonathan
deployment. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:12 PM To: jdev@jabber.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user In article <[EMAIL PROTEC

[jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-05 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Zhang Erning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then the question becomes > Is it possible to use jabber/XMPP based solution? Yes, it is possible, with (1) smart, motivated developers whose task it is to build a highly-scalable solution, (2) good admins who know how to

[jdev] Re: [jadmin] Re: One million concurrent user

2005-01-05 Thread Zhang Erning
Thanks all of you reply my post Yes, I'm working for a company similar to ISPs. We're going to offer free IM service to customers. People might ask is it possible to let 1 million concurrent users to use our service. I know, it might be much difficult than the technical solution. But my boss said