Re: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner

2001-06-11 Thread Eric Warmenhoven
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:47:43PM -0500, Emswiler, Mike wrote: > Has anyone tried to actually sue AOL Time Warner for monopolistic practices > with respect to their Instant Messaging products and tactics? > > I mean, with AOL *and* ICQ, and their constant changing of AIM protocol to > defeat int

RE: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner (and a legal solution)

2001-06-08 Thread Emswiler, Mike
From: Adam Theo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner (and a legal solution) "Emswiler, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has anyone tried to actually sue AOL Ti

Re: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner (and a legal solution)

2001-06-08 Thread Scott Cote
In my opinion a legal solution will not be needed if the non-AOL IM world can do the following: 1. Create and clearly document a simple yet powerful set of standards that include protocols, semantics, and extention mechanisims. (I have hopes that IMUnified will be able to do this, but who knows,

Re: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner (and a legal solution)

2001-06-07 Thread Adam Theo
"Emswiler, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has anyone tried to actually sue AOL Time Warner for monopolistic practices with respect to their Instant Messaging products and tactics? I mean, with AOL *and* ICQ, and their constant changing of AIM protocol to defeat interoperability, it

RE: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner

2001-06-07 Thread Michael Bauer
The charter of the Jabber Foundation is to focus on supporting and facilitating Jabber development. It's not a legal action vehicle. I think the EFF would be better positioned for doing something like this. -Original Message- From: Emswiler, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursd

Re: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner

2001-06-07 Thread stpeter
Traditionally the Jabber project has been quite apolitical with regard to the IM wars, and lots of us would like to keep it that way. :) But perhaps we can set up a jabber-politics list on egroups to discuss this kind of thing :) Peter On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Emswiler, Mike wrote: > Has anyone

RE: [JDEV] Thoughts on AOL Time Warner

2001-06-07 Thread Todd Bradley
> Has anyone tried to actually sue AOL Time Warner for > monopolistic practices > with respect to their Instant Messaging products and tactics? > > I mean, with AOL *and* ICQ, and their constant changing of > AIM protocol to > defeat interoperability, it sounds like it would be a sure win. You