Config as code runs too early in the lifecycle

2019-11-18 Thread 夏润泽
Hi all: This question about casc has occurred more frequently after my recent upgrade. Jenkins version (2.176.2) CascPlugin version (1.27) I recently upgraded to Jenkins version 2.199 to see who caused the problem (https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58993) I found out that it was bec

Proposal: Implementing sensible fine grained permissions to allow an administer to securely delegate some aspects of jenkins configuration

2019-11-18 Thread Michael Cirioli
Dear Everyone, Myself (https://github.com/mikecirioli), Angelique Jard (https://github.com/aHenryJard), and Esther Feijoo (https://github.com/EstherAF) would like to offer a proposed JEP (currently, still a draft) focused on creating a more sensible set of fine-grained permissions for supporti

Re: ANN: Proposal for a new User Experience SIG

2019-11-18 Thread YanJun Shi
+1 I feel so happy to sound this proposal. 'UX' is very important at all times. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:39 AM Rick wrote: > +1 > I believe this could be a great place to collect problems and improve the > experience. > Especially, I'm trying to improve the experience which is about the > Jenki

Re: ANN: Proposal for a new User Experience SIG

2019-11-18 Thread Rick
+1 I believe this could be a great place to collect problems and improve the experience. Especially, I'm trying to improve the experience which is about the Jenkins and plugins download speed. Anyway, I'm looking forward to it. On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:29 PM Oleg Nenashev wrote: > CC jenkinsci

Re: ANN: Proposal for a new User Experience SIG

2019-11-18 Thread Oleg Nenashev
CC jenkinsci...@googlegroups.com On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:50 PM Sladyn Nunes wrote: > +1 This sounds like the start of a great initiative. Would be a start in > eliminating the "UI is not that great problem". > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 5:10 PM Oleg Nenashev > wrote: > >> +100 for starting this

ANN: New Gitter channel for newcomer contributors

2019-11-18 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi all, I am working on updating the https://jenkins.io/participate/ page. As a part of this effort, I have created a new Gitter channel for newcomer contributors: https://gitter.im/jenkinsci/newcomer-contributors . This channel has been discussed multiple times in the Advocacy and Outreach SIG, a

Re: Proposal: Jenkins Browser Support policy updates

2019-11-18 Thread Oleg Nenashev
> > Personally I think Microsoft Edge (Chromium) should be Level 1 as it will > be coming out in January and, as far as I know, will be the default browser > for Windows 10 (or at least be used quite a bit). I'd also say that given > its Chromium based I'd include that and Chromium together alo

Re: ANN: Proposal for a new User Experience SIG

2019-11-18 Thread Sladyn Nunes
+1 This sounds like the start of a great initiative. Would be a start in eliminating the "UI is not that great problem". On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 5:10 PM Oleg Nenashev wrote: > +100 for starting this SIG. We already have a special mailing list for UX, > and starting a SIG would be a great opportuni

Re: Where to place utility code used in several plugins?

2019-11-18 Thread Oleg Nenashev
+1 for a "just plugin" On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 9:39:00 PM UTC+1, Jesse Glick wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:57 PM Ullrich Hafner > > wrote: > > What is the preferred way of handling theses classes? Should I create > two new modules (util and plugin-utill) that will host theses cl

Re: ANN: Proposal for a new User Experience SIG

2019-11-18 Thread Oleg Nenashev
+100 for starting this SIG. We already have a special mailing list for UX, and starting a SIG would be a great opportunity to discuss the UX/UI topics and to create a joint vision for it inside the project We'll be using Zoom to host the meetings and record them > https://cloudbees.zoom.us/j/62

Jenkins Contributor Summit on Dec 03 - Agenda, unconference sessions and ignite talks

2019-11-18 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi all, It is just 2 weeks left till the Jenkins contributor summit in Lisbon on Dec 03. It will be a classic full-day Jenkins contributor summit, co-located with the Jenkins X contributor summit. According to the current plan, we will have joint opening and closing sessions, but then there will b

ANN: Proposal for a new User Experience SIG

2019-11-18 Thread Jeremy Hartley
In keeping with JEP-4 , I'm posting to the developer mailing list my plan to create and lead the Jenkins User Experience special interest group. I'll submit a pull request to jenkins.io with the structure described in JEP-4

ANN: Developer meetup on Nov 22: Changes in Jenkins plugin documentation and changelogs

2019-11-18 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi all, On Novemer 22 Jenkins Documentation SIG will host a Jenkins Online Meetup to talk about the plugin documentation changes and best practices. Meetup URL for registrations and Zoom links: https://www.meetup.com/Jenkins-online-meetup/events/266465039/ In September we announced announced supp