RE: JESS: Is it for me... (long)

2003-04-01 Thread Alan Moore
Comments are always welcome ;-D Did you notice that I tried to hedge that comment with "rely too much" and "design some" so as not to make the remarks universal and unqualified. Maybe I should have left that one out... My short experience with writing jess rules is derived mainly from using it fo

JESS: CBR (Case-Based Reasoning) toolkit

2003-04-01 Thread S F Palu
Hello All, For developers interested in incorporating CBR (Case-Based Reasoning) techniques into JESS, can request a copy of NaCoDAE version-3.0 ( Navy Conversational Decision Aids Environment) from Len Breslow at the U.S navy (contact email shown below). This package is written in Java. -

Re: JESS: Is it for me... (long)

2003-04-01 Thread James C. Owen
Sorry, couldn't let this one go by without a comment. (And then I really, really have to get back to work... :-) Alan, I cut out all but one paragraph of your response. I was in complete agreement with the rest of it. A well-designed, goal-oriented approach actually uses (not salience - hate t

Re: JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread James C. Owen
I read the article reference by Ernest, and it's quite good - excellent, in fact. In light of that, I suppose one more voice will just confuse the issue even further, but, nevertheless, here goes. There are any number of good reasons to use a rulebased system (expert system, if you will) for a pr

RE: JESS: Is it for me... (long)

2003-04-01 Thread Alan Moore
Jeff, My two cents worth and likely stating the obvious... Once you decide that you want to use a rule engine, be sure your execution is as good as your decision. Some things that can help are: Make a clear distinction between policy and mechanism -- which is just another way of saying that you

Re: JESS: quotations marks

2003-04-01 Thread ejfried
Section 2.1.3 of the manual is pretty clear, I think: 2.1.3. Strings Character strings in Jess are denoted using double quotes ("). Backslashes (\) can be used to escape embedded quote symbols. Note that Jess strings are unlike Java strings in several important ways. First, no "escape s

RE: JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread Williams, Glenn
Hi, We've had the same issues for years. Its not just upper management, but the Java programmers who need to be convinced. We've been using Jess in a production web site and call center for two years, and we've used it other production applications for the last 4 years. 95% of all our rules, domai

RE: JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread George Rudolph
Title: RE: JESS: Is it for me... Ernest and all, I agree with your assessment of that article as it was written, so let me clarify a couple things.  (BTW, I recently used this paper in developing a proposal for a company I'm currently consulting with, and recognized the same two observations

JESS: quotations marks

2003-04-01 Thread tercio
Hi all, I have a doubt about how insert quotations marks (") into a string? Example: in - (str-cat "computers are "intelligents". ") out - computers are "intelligent". Thanks Tircio de Morais To unsubscribe, send the word

Re: JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread ejfried
Here's a nice article entitled "Some Guidelines for Deciding Whether to Use a Rule Engine," written by our friend George Rudolph: http://herzberg.ca.sandia.gov/jess/guidelines.shtml This article discusses many of the important considerations. I personally think it's a little pessimistic;

Re: JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread Jeff Richley
Ok, forgive the ignorence here, but I do have another very basic question. If I have to write the rules in the JESS language, what am I really getting over just writing them in pure Java? I have to have some big selling points to take to my upper ups. I would love to use an expert system, please

Re: JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread Dheeraj Kakar
Hi Jeff, 10,000 business rules should automatically qualify your project for a rules based solution and as far as rules based solutions go I haven't run into anything better than Jess. That's especially true as you have decided to use Java. Your rule "if all of the planes were unmanned then

Re: JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread ejfried
I think Jeff Richley wrote: > I have a project that has roughly 10,000 business > rules. Another major factor is that there are 13 > programmers (not including myself) and I am the only > one that has ever programmed in Java. The powers that > be have decided that we are going to write the entire

JESS: Is it for me...

2003-04-01 Thread Jeff Richley
I have a project that has roughly 10,000 business rules. Another major factor is that there are 13 programmers (not including myself) and I am the only one that has ever programmed in Java. The powers that be have decided that we are going to write the entire program in Java. There are some very