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To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 10:12 PM
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As long as we've been on the topics of genres and Sunny and the Blues
Project:
GENRE-CLASSIFY THIS:
Batman and Robin by
The Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale
(a.k.a. Sun Ra with his horn section + The Blues Project)
rec 1066 reissued & currently available on Universe Records
On Tue, 6 May 2003, Pete Rushefsky wrote:
> So not only should we ask how did the freygish mode
> come into klezmer,
and in Jewish music at large...
> but we should ask why were tunes in this mode
> continually selected over time and place by listeners
> and players...
Already the chassidim str
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From: "Ari Davidow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Richard Farina/Carolyn Hester
> >Second guitar on the original of "Violets of Dawn" (which was covered by
a
> >band nick
>Second guitar on the original of "Violets of Dawn" (which was covered by a
>band nicknamed "the Jewish Beatles," to keep this on topic)
The Blues Project was called "The Jewish Beatles"? I guess it's appropriate. Who in
the original band wasn't Jewish?
ari
Ari Davidow
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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Richard Farina/Carolyn Hester
> I'm not sure on what basis Trudi writes that Joan lifted a lot from
Carolyn
> Hester, either--or even
A week or so ago I posted to the list regarding any knowledge of Jewish
themed Cello recordings. Since that time, I have received a copy of a
wonderful CD by Richard Locker entitled "Jewish Cello Masterpieces"..It
is a mix of classical(pardon my use of genre, *smile*, yes I know Bruch
and Bloch
Sorry to indulge in some reflections that aren't well thought out...
There are many theories about where some klezmer tunes (especially in the freygish/ahava raba/hijaz/middle eastern sounding mode) derived from. But need to remember that the repertoire is a moving target depending on preferences
I'm not sure on what basis Trudi avers what follows, but: 1) Joan Baez was
not Jewish, and 2) Joan did not learn Donna Donna from Carolyn Hester--at
least, not from anything I was told. I think I know exactly whence she
learned it--specifically, from Tony Saletan in the Boston area.
I'm not sur
Alex-
In a message dated 5/6/03 7:55:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>It's not generally known but Sun Ra's real name was John Ra, from which
>the
>term 'genre' is derived,
Oh, my God, that's awful.
I still liked it, of course.
According to Ira Gitler, Sun Ra's real name was Herman "Sunny" Bl
As on of the drummers and percussionist on the list the answer would be
talk about modern drums come out of the Ottoman Empire. The best way to do
research on any percussion related topic is start by going through the
archives of the Percussion Arts Society. (www.pas.org) You do have to be
Katie,
What is your e-mail address? I was not able to determine it from your last
e-mail.
Judy Caplan Ginsburgh, Professional Singer
1999 Louisiana Professional Artist of the Year!
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www.judymusic.com
Hot off the Press! My Jewish World - a new early c
We're talking about music made by earthlings, not space aliens.
> It's not generally known but Sun Ra's real name was John Ra,
> from which the
> term 'genre' is derived, this despite the fact than so many
> people objected
> to calling his music by the familiar terminology 'jazz'.
>
>
>
>
It's not generally known but Sun Ra's real name was John Ra, from which the
term 'genre' is derived, this despite the fact than so many people objected
to calling his music by the familiar terminology 'jazz'.
At 09:42 AM 5/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Excellent point. If everyone here didn't at so
Excellent point. If everyone here didn't at some level accept the idea
of musical genres, they wouldn't be on this list, "World Music from a
Jewish slant." If that's not a genre, what is? And if we didn't have
genres, we wouldn't exist.
> Given that even those registering the anti-genre argument
Given that even those registering the anti-genre argument (and citing as
problematic a handful of obvious crossovers and fusions) use terms most of
us would associate with genres in their threads. If the Klezmatics don't
play klezmer why do they use a group name that clearly indicates that that
didnt woody allen use that argument??
all men are mortal
socrates is a mortal
therefore
all men are socrates
avi
--- Seth Rogovoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So Bernstein's Mass gets lumped into the same
> category as
> > John Cage- and if I decide that I hate modern
> classical on
> > the
Judith, of course I know who you are, you don't need to remind me. :) ALthough if you
have a new press kit or demo cd to send to our office I'd greatly appreciate it. We
are no longer doing an Encore concert series here at the JCC, but rather a summer
music festival, beginning in 2004 (so if a
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:06 PM
Subject: Middle Eastern Roots of
Klezmer?
Hello, all!I received this
question from a young (16-year-old) klezmer drummer. I would be curi
I can send you the lyrics in Hebrew
Moshe Berlin
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From:
Steve
Weintraub
To: World music from a Jewish slant
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:50
PM
Subject: Te ve Orez
I recall once hearing that the title of the
children's dance so
Chevre,
I noticed yesterday a discussion about Yasmin Levi and today I saw the
program for the 5th Felicja Blumental International Music Festival (May
11-17) and lo and behold, Yasmin Levi is singing in one of the concerts: Ladino
Gems 2 - Legacy Night on Tuesday May 13th at the Tel-Aviv Museum.
On Sat, 3 May 2003, Steve Weintraub wrote:
> I recall once hearing that the title of the children's dance song Te
ve'Orez was a sort of Israeli chalutzim joke, to the effect that there were as many
mosquitos in (then) Palestine as there was tea and rice in China. Can anyone verify
this? And, a
On Mon, 5 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As I understand, he is trying to figure out if he can
> do a presentation on klezmer when the topic is Middle
> Eastern music.
One of the things he could study are the similarities /
differences between the system of maqamat (Middle
Eastern music) and
I believe the the physicist is indeed Joan's
father.
before I forget - Joel - WHICH ex-Yugoslavia group??
...
The genre discussion doesn't seem to have much of a point. Genres don't exist
in and of themselves; people created the concept . Like many other creations
which depend on language, it's a very useful tool for certain kinds of things,
and
hi, from Spain, re Katie´s question and Joan's comment: (Katie, I'm the one you
ended up not inviting to the JCC for a concert ñlast year when I was in Detroit
for an ethnomusicology meeting!):
Fortuna is Jewish but NOT from a Judeo-Spanish speaking background; her family
is from, I believe, Sy
Hello,
There is a book called "The Klezmer Tradition in the Land of Israel" with
transcriptions and commentaries by Yaakov Mazor published by the Jewish
Music Research Centre, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 2000.
Much of the book seems to focus on Niggunim, but other topics are covered
as
I believe that Consuelo still lives in Santa Fe. She performed at our shul
in Albuquerque last year as part of our Sephardic festival. There are many,
many people in New Mexico who are descendents of "hidden Jews" or
"conversos" - full or part Jewish ancestry. As you probably know, their
ancestors
Hello, all!
I received this question from a young (16-year-old) klezmer drummer. I would be curious as to how you (plural--"you-all") would direct him.
As I understand, he is trying to figure out if he can do a presentation on klezmer when the topic is Middle Eastern music. The first thing that
Still a bit slow catching up, but at least the review of Koby Israelite's
album "Dance of the Idiots" is up, along with a few other snippets.
You can catch up here:
http://www.rainlore.demon.co.uk/Jewish.html
Richard
"Renaissance Man"
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On 05/05/2003 at 09:53 r l reidr l reid wrote:
>Eliezer Kaplan wrote:
>> Roger Reid yclept:
>> > Why is "genre classification" silly?
>>
>> Because it forces listeners to 'pgeonhole' music based on their
>> expectations.
>
>"Forces"? Hardly. Gives a h
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On 04/05/2003 at 20:47 Ari Davidow wrote:
>At 05:44 PM 5/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>Of course there are, but one needs to recognize that what goes into each
one
>>depends on someone's arbitrary opinion. But just for fun, let's play a
>>little game. Genre
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On 05/05/2003 at 10:26 I. Oppenheim wrote:
>I would say that music can be classified in
>genres (Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic,...)
Even there you'll soon run into problems, certainly by the time you come to
the classical and romantic compos
On Mon, 5 May 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote:
> if I decide that I hate modern classical on the basis
> of John Cage (not me personally)
How could one hate a complete genre on account of a
negative experience with only one piece of music, or
even one composer?
Just because you do not like "Elias" by
I said 'not me personally'.
But consider the novice listener.
(also, careful with the set theory around me, Seth- got an advanced degree
in that s*** :-)
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From: "Seth Rogovoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday,
> So Bernstein's Mass gets lumped into the same category as
> John Cage- and if I decide that I hate modern classical on
> the basis of John Cage (not me
> personally) then I can assume the Bernstein will be similar?
Why would you make that assumption?
Why would you assume that if C (Cage) is
So Bernstein's Mass gets lumped into the same category as John Cage- and if
I decide that I hate modern classical on the basis of John Cage (not me
personally) then I can assume the Bernstein will be similar?
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