Re: [Jmol-users] Selecting molecules in unit cell -Jmol 11

2006-10-03 Thread Patrick J. Carroll
Bob, This problem of selecting molecules in the unit cell is a general problem - I would like the user to be able to interactively build up the packing diagram (of any compound) based on, e.g., hydrogen bonding like I did using a big PDB file in : http://macxray.chem

Re: [Jmol-users] Selecting molecules in unit cell -Jmol 11

2006-10-03 Thread rgb
On Tue, October 3, 2006 12:40 pm, Bob Hanson wrote: > Ah, I see. If they do not cross cell boundaries, you could > > select cell=566 and > > for example. Or, if not, and they are all connected as a single organic > molecule, you could: > > select within(molecule,cell=566 and symop = 1) > > "si

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol's use of ionic radii

2006-10-03 Thread rgb
Philip, Bob, It is an unfortunate fact of life that some (many?) CIF parsers rely to some degree on an assumed ordering of dataitems in the CIF. Even the cif-checking software that does structure checking at the IUCr breaks in this regard! The only way to not have this problem is if the CIF is par

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol's use of ionic radii

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip Barak
- Original Message - From: Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just move that atom type block up in front of the atom coordinates. > I > know, probably shouldn't have to worry about this. Yes, that makes it work!! Thanks, Phil Barak

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol's use of ionic radii

2006-10-03 Thread Bob Hanson
Just move that atom type block up in front of the atom coordinates. I know, probably shouldn't have to worry about this. Bob Phillip Barak wrote: >From: Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>Quick fix: >> >>change your designation >> >>_atom_site_label >> >>to >> >>_atom_site_type_symbol >

Re: [Jmol-users] Selecting molecules in unit cell -Jmol 11

2006-10-03 Thread Bob Hanson
Ah, I see. If they do not cross cell boundaries, you could select cell=566 and for example. Or, if not, and they are all connected as a single organic molecule, you could: select within(molecule,cell=566 and symop = 1) "site" is crystallographic site, so that might also be useful. I don'

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol's use of ionic radii

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip Barak
From: Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Quick fix: > > change your designation > > _atom_site_label > > to > > _atom_site_type_symbol I see how the fields didn't match before. At your suggestion, I modified as (below). With 'spacefill IONIC', the ionic radius for calcium seems right but carb

[Jmol-users] Selecting molecules in unit cell -Jmol 11

2006-10-03 Thread Patrick J. Carroll
Bob, The difficulty I have in selecting molecules in the unit cell is that I would like to be able to, e.g., select the molecule produced by the symmetry operation X, 1/2-Y, 1/2+Z and THEN select the one produced by 1+X, 1/2-Y, 1/2+Z, which is the same symmetry operation, just transla