Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Philip Bays
Bob: I think I do not understand signed applets, or at least not this one. I set one of my HTML files to call the signed applet. It calls it and gives me the signed applet dialog. As I look at it I have three choices -- run, cancel, or always trust. I understand Run and Always trust. But I

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Hanson
OK, THERE IS A WORK-AROUND: jmolInitialize jmolSetCallback("UseCommandThread","true") jmolApplet As far as I can tell, this brings you back to the old behavior. The JAR files can be anywhere, and the files Jmol reads can be anywhere in or beneath the JAR file directory. For example: jmol

Re: [Jmol-users] Model Kit Applet Lock-up Problem

2010-06-08 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Ok, that's good to know. I guess I better move on to RC17. Otis On 6/8/2010 1:00 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: "HOLD" means it's broken, by the way Is there something not being turned on and off properly by use of the following couplet? surely. set modelkitmode = true set mode

Re: [Jmol-users] Multiple, discontinuous models

2010-06-08 Thread Craig T Martin
> Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 01:59:06 +0200 > From: Angel Herr?ez > Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] Multiple, discontinuous models > > Yeah, there it is: > > frame all; display 1.2,1.4,1.6 > > or > > frame all; display model=2,model=4,model=6 > > or > > frame all; display */2,*/4,*/6 Beau

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
Phil, so my suspicion that your problem and mine has the same scent are taking form. Java security errors come from folder layouts. I've changed mine and hit a problem, you have changed yours and hit another problem. Everything seems to com from the same cause. We are needing folder system dr

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Philip Bays
Bob: I think this may be a stupid question, but.. I understand your nomenclature diagram. Are you saying that the pages directory must be inside the jmol directory which itself must be at the root (top level) of the site. That is, that you must past through the jmol directory to get to the

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
> > Actually, the solution looks like using this path set: > > /jmol > > .[all jar files here] > > ./pages > > .[html here] Not even that, or I may be coming blind. Fails in both Firefox, IE8, Chrome. Works in Safari (all Win) Page is at etc\Jmol-12.0.RC

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
> OK, looks like there is a new Firefox security policy: I will double-check again, but I think that IE is doing me the same. > For all local files accessed via JavaScript, both the JAR file AND > the HTML file must be on the path to that file. Jmol files in a folder BELOW the html page works t

Re: [Jmol-users] Model Kit Applet Lock-up Problem

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Hanson
"HOLD" means it's broken, by the way > Is there something not being turned on and off properly by use of the > following couplet? > > surely. > set modelkitmode = true > set modelkitmode = false > > Otis > > -- > Otis Rothenberger > chemagic.com > > > > > >

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Hanson
OK, looks like there is a new Firefox security policy: For all local files accessed via JavaScript, both the JAR file AND the HTML file must be on the path to that file. Pretty sure that's new. The fix for me was to move the Jmol-12 directory into the pages directory, modify the files, and i

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
Thanks, Bob. I'm rather puzzled I think that all has started when I changed from having Jmol files below the page folder to having them on a sister folder. The script files are always with Jmol or below it. So it's the position relative to the html that makes the difference. Comparing to the a

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Hanson
UFF.txt is a resource within the Jar file. Specifically it is in: JmolApplet0_Minimize.jar/org/jmol/minimize/forcefield JmolAppletSigned0_Minimize.jar/org/jmol/minimize/forcefield If you use set debug you should see its contents listed when the minimizer runs. Very odd that the system can't

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
El 8 Jun 2010 a las 12:02, Philip Bays escribió: > Obviously I have to learn to use Jmol.js:-) Well, that's really easy. But won't keep you away from the cache problems :-) Good luck -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad t

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Philip Bays
Thanks all. I am looking at the suggestions. However, I found that if I go to another account on my macing, the pages work fine in Firefox. This clearly means it is a cache problem. I have gone back to my account, as as Egan said, it is a pain to determine how to delete everything that nee

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Hanson
OK, so on a Mac here at St. Olaf (sorry -- no details) this site worked fine. The file can't be opened locally because the jar file is not on the path to it. Generally speaking, you can't use ../../Jmol for the Jar file location and then just ./.pdb for the file. Also, Phil, if you aren't

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Hanson
The critical information comes from the Java console: urlImage=jar: http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Jmol/JmolApplet.jar!/jmol75x29x8.gif [this tells us where the Jar file is located] FileManager.getAtomSetCollectionFromFile(Acyclic/M5/R.pdb) FileManager opening http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Jonathan Gutow
Works for me using Firefox on a Mac if I follow the link below. MacOS 10.6.3, Java 1.6.0_20. I'm getting Jmol 12.0.RC12 from your server. Have the people having problems clear their caches and restart their browsers. It might be worth rebooting the machine as well. Jonathan On Jun 8, 2010, at

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Phil- The Jmol related problem changes work for me on XP with Firefox, Chrome, and MSIE. Java 1.6.0_19 Firefox 3.6.3 Is it possible that your use of innerHTML to load a the original applet is causing issues on some browsers/platforms when you use the newer Jmol applet? Another thought: Wo

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
This is the summary and a test case: 1. Problem is there only for local files, not from server. Seems to be related to Jmol reading text files (either scripts or the UFF.txt file embedded somehow inside Jmol) from a folder where the applet jars are but the webpage is not. Main_folder |

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Philip Bays
But here are the issues: 1. The programs have worked in the past, and were even working last week, I think. They were written about 5 years ago and have been in use since then with classes. (This was pre-Hanson time). 2. I have reorganized the site with appropriate (I think) adjustments in path

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
Well, I don't think that Jonathan's well-based explanation says why this didn't happen to Phil with a previous version of Jmol. I see this security rules are a complex situation. Also, maybe by chance, but I'm having seeming different problems that come also to Java security issues. I'm testing

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Jonathan Gutow
Phil, This is a problem specifically with how Mozilla browsers on the Mac pass local paths. This has been a problem for years. For local running of pages on a Mac you need to use a different browser. The issue is that the Mozilla browsers insist on passing absolute paths through the javascri

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
Further, even accounting for tricky security policies, I cannot imagine why the very same command works from the console, and what has minimize to do with the security. (minimize is also failing from a button, not from console or popup menu) --

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
Phil, I don't know. I'm starting to see ghosts :-) I've just made a simple page and gone back to Jmol 11.6, just to confirm this is or not an issue of recent Jmol versions. It is not. The command that fails when called in a button is OK when entered at the console. The paths are correct, the Ja

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Philip Bays
Angel: Are your issue and mine related? I use a random number generator to choose which file to load. The first one is loaded fine. But when I push a button to reload (another random numbered file), I get the exception. Phil On Jun 8, 2010, at 6:57 AM, Angel Herráez wrote: > The same probl

Re: [Jmol-users] weird problem launching minimization

2010-06-08 Thread Angel Herráez
The same problem stays in 12.0.RC17 and I'm finding more strange behaviours that, altough unrelated in principle, may have the same origin: I am calling a script file (that acts on the current model, does not load anything). When invoked from a button in the page, if raises a Java security err

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception

2010-06-08 Thread Philip Bays
Bob: The jar file is in a directory (Jmol) at the Sites level. So Acyclic -- the program calling the applet -- is below is below it it as prescribed. It works non-Mozilla browsers on the mac in Safari. And the same setup is on the web where I observe the same issue. Phil On Jun 8, 2010, at