Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2006-01-18 Thread Miguel
> Hi, just wondering what happened with the DNA rendering as ladder and/ > or 'broken-rung' ladder... Below is Miguel's last post that I can > find on this topic. Frieda, To date I have not done any work on rendering DNA as a ladder. Miguel --

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2006-01-18 Thread Frieda Reichsman
Hi, just wondering what happened with the DNA rendering as ladder and/or 'broken-rung' ladder... Below is Miguel's last post that I can find on this topic.FriedaOn Sep 18, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Miguel wrote:Q: Can someone tell me which atoms make up the sugur? A detailed atom numbering scheme of the n

Re: Fwd: Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Jürgen Sühnel
Quoting Miguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: So, in DNA and RNA the sugar forms five-membered rings with the main atoms C1', C2', C3', C4', O4'. Note that in some PDB files instead of the prime ' a star * is used (C1*, C2*, C3*, C4*, O4*). Yes. Jmol supports this. In fact, I think that all of the .p

Re: Fwd: Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Miguel
>> Q: Can someone tell me which atoms make up the sugur? > > A detailed atom numbering scheme of the nucleic acid backbone is available > in > Fig 2. of http://www.imb-jena.de/ImgLibDoc/nana/IMAGE_NANA.html. Thanks > So, in DNA and RNA the sugar forms five-membered rings with the main atoms > C1'

Fwd: Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Jürgen Sühnel
- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:20:26 +0200 From: Jürgen Sühnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Jürgen Sühnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering To: Miguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Quoting Miguel

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Sunday 18 September 2005 15:37, Miguel wrote: > Q: Can someone tell me which atoms make up the sugur? Sugar rings consist of five or six ring system, such as that of glucose, see [1]. In DNA, two OH are replaced by two OR, where R=phosphate or base. The sugar ring in DNA is actually a five rin

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Miguel
> I have a few comments on nucleic acid rendering. > For illustrative examples look at http://www.fli-leibniz.de/js/Jmol/DNA/ . > > 1. Generating ladders is simple for regular structures, see example 1. > Nevertheless, you have always to perform an analysis of base > pairing patterns in th

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Frieda Reichsman
On Sep 18, 2005, at 3:17 AM, Juergen Suehnel wrote: I have a few comments on nucleic acid rendering. For illustrative examples look at http://www.fli-leibniz.de/js/Jmol/DNA/ . 2. A way to overcome this problem is to represent single bases as tubes along the major axis of the bases, se

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Frieda Reichsman
On Sep 18, 2005, at 1:11 AM, Miguel wrote: I am a little confused ... I thought that point would get connected to the corresponding point on the other side. I was thinking that the rungs would be interrupted as you described below. If we draw the line to the N1/3 then there will be a

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-18 Thread Juergen Suehnel
I have a few comments on nucleic acid rendering. For illustrative examples look at http://www.fli-leibniz.de/js/Jmol/DNA/ . 1. Generating ladders is simple for regular structures, see example 1. Nevertheless, you have always to perform an analysis of base pairing patterns in the nucleic aci

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-17 Thread Miguel
> Would it be possible to originate the rung from the same spot where, in > cartoon, the stick-like projection leaves the backbone? That point is the mid-point between phosphorus atoms. > If so, I would > connect that point to: > > Adenine: N1 > Guanine: N1 > Cytosine: N3 > Thymine:N3 > > If not,

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-17 Thread Frieda Reichsman
On Sep 15, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Miguel wrote: Frieda wrote: Is there a rendering for DNA in Jmol that simplifies the bases into something like rungs of a ladder? Frieda closest thing is the 'cartoon' rendering. It would be very easy to implement a 'ladder' representation. Excellent! Q: W

Re: [Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-15 Thread Miguel
> Is there a rendering for DNA in Jmol that simplifies the bases into > something like rungs of a ladder? > Frieda closest thing is the 'cartoon' rendering. It would be very easy to implement a 'ladder' representation. Q: What are the atoms that get linked? Q: Is there a new command, or is it

[Jmol-users] DNA rendering

2005-09-15 Thread Frieda Reichsman
Is there a rendering for DNA in Jmol that simplifies the bases into something like rungs of a ladder? Frieda --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be