Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-14 Thread Otis Rothenberger
-- From: "Angel Herráez" Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:20 AM To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 Otis, I'm glad to be of help and that you found an easy fix. One more mad idea: From the what I've read, the applet tag has

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-14 Thread Angel Herráez
Otis, I'm glad to be of help and that you found an easy fix. One more mad idea: From the what I've read, the applet tag has for a long time been discouraged by official docs, but seemingly the safest bet in regard to browsers. Recently I found that Chrome has radically changed their behaviour

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-14 Thread Otis Rothenberger
From: "Otis Rothenberger" Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:14 AM To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 Hi Angel, You may be correct on the style sheet. I lost in-line styles in div tags. I didn't believe this at first myself, but I ma

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-14 Thread Otis Rothenberger
thenberger Department of Chemistry Illinois State University Normal, IL 61790-4160 http://chemagic.org From: "Angel Herráez" Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:08 AM To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 Otis, I

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-14 Thread Angel Herráez
Otis, I may be wrong, but I don't think that declaring the page as HTML vs. XHTML should make any difference as to what CSS is supported (html tags yes, but not css). Transitional vs. strict can make a (big) difference. BTW, regarding the need to include a DOCTYPE, everybody seems to advice so

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Otis Rothenberger
The change in doctype (aka lowering the bar) does carry a price. I've lost the ability to style a as text-align: center. I suspect style issues will be my biggest problem. There are work arounds for loss of styles. Basically, just style individual elements inside the It is interesting that I

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Angel Herráez
> Angel, I just thought of something. That yellow applet message could have > come from JME. It's > sitting right there. It's just hidden! Don't think so. That does not come from Java, it's hardcoded in Jmol.js It's the text that goes inside the object or applet tag in the source code, as a fa

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Otis Rothenberger
e University Normal, IL 61790-4160 http://chemagic.org From: "Robert Hanson" Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 1:47 PM To: osrot...@chemagic.com, jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 Your page looks fixed. I had copied the

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Angel Herráez
Maybe not totally related to this problem, but I think that Jmol.js might be not fully compliant with XHTML. So if you use XHTML headers everything will depend on the browser pickiness. The appearance of the yellow box is what makes me think of this. --

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Robert Hanson
Your page looks fixed. I had copied the older version. Someone tell me why it's important to include this doctype crap on a web page. -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran dev

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Otis Rothenberger
University Normal, IL 61790-4160 http://chemagic.org From: "Robert Hanson" Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 1:27 PM To: osrot...@chemagic.com, jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 FYI, when I switch that Jm

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Otis Rothenberger
, IL 61790-4160 http://chemagic.org From: "Robert Hanson" Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 12:59 PM To: osrot...@chemagic.com, jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 Otis, Applet loads for me using MSIE 9.0/Windows 7. An a

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Robert Hanson
istry > Illinois State University Normal, IL 61790-4160 > http://chemagic.org > > -- > *From*: "Robert Hanson" > *Sent*: Friday, May 13, 2011 12:59 PM > *To*: osrot...@chemagic.com, jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > *Subject*: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 > >

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Otis Rothenberger
niversity Normal, IL 61790-4160 http://chemagic.org From: "Robert Hanson" Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 12:59 PM To: osrot...@chemagic.com, jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 Otis, Applet loads for me using MSIE 9.0/W

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Angel Herráez
> On the other hand, it's that page - not Jmol in general. There is > something on that page that MSIE 9 does not like. Oh, then it's definitely a different problem. OK, I wnt to my colleague's PC (Windows 7, latest Java). Your page opens and has no problem BUT the yellow square displays below

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Robert Hanson
Otis, Applet loads for me using MSIE 9.0/Windows 7. An additional yellow box saying I don't have Java installed ALSO is displayed under the applet. But the applet is fine. This does not occur with my pages, so I suspect it is a subtle problem with your page HTML. For example, a missing /> in a tag

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Otis Rothenberger
1790-4160 http://chemagic.org From: "Angel Herráez" Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:57 AM To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9 Otis, I have not IE9 now at hand, but in part this sounds like the last problem reported in Jmol-

Re: [Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Angel Herráez
Otis, I have not IE9 now at hand, but in part this sounds like the last problem reported in Jmol-users list: IE was closing down the page. I'm not sure what the fix was then (some saw it, some not), but yesterday in a colleague's PC we had the problem again (she had just upgraded to IE9) and it

[Jmol-users] MSIE 9

2011-05-13 Thread Otis Rothenberger
All, I just installed MSIE 9 (Widows 7). Our model kit page crashes the browser on opening. If, however, I switch to comparability mode (for "older pages"), the page loads properly. MS is not very helpful when it comes to causes, but my system returns the following in the new MSIE "unibox" (or