Dear Friends in Christ,
I am not trying to hurt any one of you, but sharing what I heard from many
of the catholic preachers. I am also adding some of my experience. I am 36,
married for 8 years and having 2 kids. Praise the Lord!
Loving before marriage is a sin.
If not, what is marriage for Christians?
Is it only a license for sexual intercourse?
Love with heart before marriage and
adds fleshly love after marriage? Is that 50-50 deal?
Aby is lucky that his affair lead to marraige.
What would you have done if your family objected?
Either you avoid your family, OR you choose to betray your love!!
Both are wrong. Right? That is the risk!!!
What is the assurance that the one you like is going to be your partner?
If NOT, then "the one" you loved is going to be the partner of another!!!!
I.e., you have loved the wife/Hus of another one. A Sin!
Don't confuse with friendship and love. You can choose your partner but dont
"fall" in love. Do not even think in a way that he/she is "going to be" your
partner. That is sin. Mathew 5:28 says even a gaze of lust is considered as
adultery.
As I mentioned in my last email, if you like a girl/boy, consult elders (or
Church) and get married. Dont love thinking that he/she is my chosen
partner. After marriage he/she is your hus/wife. Now you are not two, but
one. How can you not love yourself? Thats is the point! As one flesh, in
marriage, you are loving yourself. Anything outside is loving each other.
Further, NOT loving is a SIN after marriage!!!
Ephe 5:28 says "Even so husbands also ought to love their own wives as their
own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself." word 32 says "The two
will become one flesh. This mystery is great!"
Praise the Lord!
Wilson Thomas
Singapore
----- Original Message -----
From: "abbyabraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:41 AM
Subject: [JOYnet] You, me and Jesus - Jesus me and U !!
> Dear JYs,
>
> I want to know from JY family : If a marriage is 50% love and 50%
arranged
> then, is it a sin? Mine was a 50-50 affair.
>
> I fully agree with Ravi that moderation has to be exercised in this topic
> called romance. Ravi is correct in stating that love is a 'perfectly
normal
> human emotion'.
>
> Bring Jesus into your life. And, it is healthy and beautiful for young
> lovers to tell , " You me and Jesus.......Jesus, me and U" . Years ago, I
> told it to the girl who is my wife now. God will work out only the best
for
> His children and we should stitch romance with that thread called Jesus.
>
> If we bring our deepest feelings and experiences into God's hands and tell
> Him about it, and if we can live with romance the way Holy Bible teaches,
> then falling in love is one of the best experiences anyone can have. It
> isn't a must that everybody has to fall in love. But for anyone who's
> calling is to know the life partner before the wedding, then he/she has to
> take it with grace and holiness.
>
> With prayers
>
> abbyabraham
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ravi Vaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Wilson Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "JoYNet"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PRADEEP GEORGE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:08 AM
> Subject: [JOYnet] My comments on Falling in love before mariage is wrong
>
>
> > HI Joynetters,
> >
> > I think i will have to disagree with what wilson has pointed out here..
> > Falling in love is not a Sin of adultery and not wrong either...
> > It is a perfectly normal human emotion
> > It is what you do as a result of falling in love that can become sin or
> wrong ...if proper care isnt taken..
> > I feel that we should understand and spend some time with a person we
are
> interested in.. before thinking abt marriage..
> > we cannot do trial and error in such an important aspect of life..by
first
> getting married and then trying to figure out how to get the relationship
to
> work..
> > We should be more practical in such things..
> > I feel that we shouldnt be so rigid and harsh abt it..
> > Just because u love someone doesnt mean u will get married to that
> person..
> > there are other practical concerns that act as barriers to doing so..
> Which is gods way of telling us whether a relationship will work or not..
> > Please do not confuse the meaning of the word love..
> > there are many types of love in this world.. fatherly and motherly love,
> brotherly love..
> > agape love, friendly love, erotic love.. etc..
> > we cannot just generalise and say that love means erotic or sexual
love..
> and then criticise it..
> > Please understand that like bible verses, even situations in life are to
> be understood in context...else it can be dangerous..
> > Let u not be too fundamentalist in our thinking...let us learn the
beauty
> of being moderate..and not extreme.
> > Love and prayers
> >
> > ravi
> >
> >
> > Wilson Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Pradeep,
> >
> > You are absolutely wrong. Falling in love before marriage is wrong,
either
> > for flesh, or for whatever divine relation we call it. I can show you
> > hundreds of youngsters believing in these and get cheated. The "right"
for
> > God is not the "right" we choose, but He choose. He choose not as we
> think,
> > but through "OTHER" right persons in right time. If we choose like
modern
> > society, we will be changing it every now and then. That is where the
> > "Spirit of the World" will guide us through. Please dont get cheated...
If
> > we are lacking love in our life, don't borrow it from the street, but
get
> it
> > abundantly from Jesus.
> >
> > If you think that a girl is chosen for you, get married first with the
> > permission of your guardians and Church. Then love her with whole your
> > heart. Anything outside that is adultery. If not, we don't need such a
> > divine sacrament called marriage. ONLY by this sacrament two flesh
becomes
> > one.
> >
> > Praise the Lord
> >
> > Wilson Thomas
> > Singapore
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "PRADEEP GEORGE"
> >
> > To: "JoYNet"
> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:53 PM
> > Subject: [JOYnet] RE::Valentine's day..is it ok to fall in love ?
> >
> >
> > > I think there is nothing wrong in falling love with some one.
> > >
> > > But
> > > >"young people are so much encouraged and pressurized to somehow fall
in
> > > > love even at the risk of making a wrong decision and regretting it
> till
> > > the
> > > > end of our lives . "
> > >
> > > This is not the right ..no doubt...
> > > Love is divine.But only for the sake of saying " i too have an affiar"
> > is
> > > not the right way ....
> > >
> > > Ofcourse there is some one whom Jesus has selected for all of us from
> > > the very beginning.And he will reveal whom it is at the right time.We
> > > need not ry to know it before that , I think.
> > >
> > > We can (and we should) pray for the person whom God have selected for
us
> > > from eternity .FOr that we need not know who it is...
> > >
> > > We had a preist , who taught us to pray for our future life partner.
> that
> > > was during the catechism classes in our tenth standard.
> > > I belive it is the right way and i do remember his words during all
> > pray
> > > times.
> > >
> > > Finally ,deepak has asked for advice from married people in the
> > group.Anyway
> > > I am not falling into that category.Still just wanted to tell my views
> on
> > > this matter.
> > >
> > > regards and prayers
> > >
> > > pradeep george
> > > thrissur.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "deepak"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:51 AM
> > > Subject: [JOYnet] Valentine's day..is it ok to fall in love ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Bros & sis
> > > > i have a question for all of u . do u think it is alright
> > for
> > > > young people to fall in love ?.be coz of this situation now
> ..valentines
> > > day
> > > > is so commerciallised that it would seem a tragedy to have no one
with
> u
> > > on
> > > > Feb 14 th ..no one to give a card ..etc...
> > > > so now young people are so much encouraged and pressurized to
somehow
> > fall
> > > in
> > > > love even at the risk of making a wrong decision and regretting it
> till
> > > the
> > > > end of our lives . so Guys what do u suggest ???
> > > > what would Jesus want us to do in such a situatu\ion ...would jesus
> like
> > > us to
> > > > fall in love with some one?..is there some one Jesus selected for us
> in
> > > the
> > > > very begining ..if there is how will we know?...what are the factors
> > which
> > > any
> > > > young person should rethink if he or she find herself to be attraced
> to
> > > wards
> > > > someone?
> > > > i really don't know how many young people are in this group but i
> > > certainly
> > > > know there are many married people in this group ..think u can
> enlighten
> > > us
> > > > with your experience?....
> > > > luv deepak
> > > > trivandrum india
> > >
> > >
> >
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