Re: [JOYnet] Re: Salvation

2001-07-10 Thread LOVELYST
Jannet, That actual rebirth happens to us in our baptism. But we cannot understand it until we are older. That is the reason why the church asks us to renew our baptism vows on every Holy Saturday. Being born in a Catholic family and getting baptized is probably not enough to get this unders

Re: [JOYnet] Re: Salvation

2001-07-10 Thread jannet fernandez
Hi, I would like to make a comment here.Simply being born as a Catholic and being baptised will not help us in being born-again. I would like to share my personal experience. Being born in a catholic family i was baptised. I do believe that i became a whole self then. But then i had no personal t

[JOYnet] Re: Salvation

2001-07-10 Thread LOVELYST
Hello, We don't have to worry about not being 'born again.' As Catholics, we are all 'born again' in our baptism. In our baptism we died for Jesus and became new creation in him. We just have to be aware of who we are. Love and Prayers, Lovely Thomas / Chicago / USA *

[JOYnet] Re: Salvation

2001-07-02 Thread Jose Paul Martin
I think Sebastian is right, we should be asking if "we" are saved. i.e. I should be asking the question to my self "Am 'I' saved?" The discussion asto whether other denominations are saved or not - may be debatable, but does it really 'help us' in knowing the answer to that. I think we should

[JOYnet] Re: Salvation

2001-06-30 Thread Alfred Samji
Like Fr. Thomas I had also come across many people from other denominations claiming that they have attained salvation once they have been baptized. They say the sins after this baptism are not counted. But what I believe is the word of Christ which clearly says, "M't:5:13: Ye are the salt of t