[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-06 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, 1- First of all, do you frequently use jspax for your jQuery plugins ? no one said this plugin is the first of its kind. Yes I do. I have recieved reports from developers that have poblems with jsPax and IE, but none of their testcases did show their problems for me. For my part I never

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-06 Thread Ariel Flesler
Hi Christof It's certainly better if the developer organizes it's code. Using a package manager, or w/e script fulfills that need. Some frameworks, already are organized into packages, and they usually have a package loader integrated. Now, jQuery is not structured in packages, it's a core.

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-06 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, Now, jQuery is not structured in packages, it's a core. You could consider the plugins as package, but there's no jQuery module to load them orderly (that I know of). That was one of the reasons I wrote jsPax. I chose not to use jQuery in jsPax, because I still have some applications

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-05 Thread Alexandre Plennevaux
Hi Ariel, a quick question: did you consider instead to use the selector method in order to line in the plugins to be lazy loaded? for instance: script class=lazy src=_js/jquery_plugins/jquery.metadata.1.0/jquery.metadata.js type=text/javascript/script script class=lazy

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-05 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, i have no idea whether this is feasible or not, i'm just a UI designer No, it isn't. The browser doesn't know what you mean by class=lazy. As soon as the browser reads a script tag it will begin to load the script, no matter what classname you gave it. There is no way to stop him.

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-05 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, First release of jQuery.Plugin, that's the name, it is used to lazy load plugins. The file is only fetched with the first call to the plugin. 1. Why not use existing and tested code like e.g. jsPax (jspax.org) or jsan? 2. Can your code resolve dependencies? 3. Does it work with

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-05 Thread Alexandre Plennevaux
what if you comment out your script tags ? i'm probably pulling hairs here. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Christof Donat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i have no idea whether this is feasible or not, i'm just a UI designer No, it isn't. The browser doesn't know what you mean by

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-05 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, what if you comment out your script tags ? i'm probably pulling hairs here. Then you don't have the script tags in the DOM. You would need to write your own parser then to parse the content of the coments - not a too simple task. Of course you also can not use the existing jQuery

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-05 Thread Alexandre Plennevaux
Christof, thanks for bearing with my silly questions and the clear explanations ! On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Christof Donat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, what if you comment out your script tags ? i'm probably pulling hairs here. Then you don't have the script tags in the DOM.

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-05 Thread Ariel Flesler
Hi all Thanks for your comments, a little tough but that's cool and positive. I checked jspax. It's a regular package manager like any of those out there (no offense meant). Well, this is different: 1- First of all, do you frequently use jspax for your jQuery plugins ? no one said this

[jQuery] Re: jQuery.Plugin, first release.

2008-03-04 Thread Ariel Flesler
I added a paste with an example, to show the syntax, I promise a real demo soon :) Link: http://flesler.pastebin.com/f3e105964 Ariel Flesler On 5 mar, 00:44, Ariel Flesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,    First release of jQuery.Plugin, that's the name, it is used to lazy load plugins. The