Thank you, Ray. Now, hopefully, we can get back to the JSP-INTEREST list and
stop with the WEBMACRO-IS-BETTER-THAN-JSP-INTEREST list.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Cromwell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: In what ways does JSP score over Servlets ?
...
Second of all, you keep implying that you can't do MVC with JSP
which
is incorrect. MVC is a *DESIGN PATTERN*, independent of
implementation
language. MVC exists everywhere, in Smalltalk, C++, Java, and any
other language. So the impliciation that JSP can't do MVC is quite
frankly,
absurd.
...
That said, WebMacro is a fine piece of software with a nice syntax
for iterating over Enumerations, Iterators, and bean collections,
and frankly, I wish such syntax was added to Java itself, or
operator overloading was added. Java's creators recognized that
String processing is fundamental, and added an operator (+), for it.
They should realize that collections are also fundamental types and
add a way to use convenient syntax for them also.
However, I just don't buy this anti-JSP MVC argument. In my view,
you are feeling the heat from JSP, and fear that a soluton from Sun
is
going to wipe out all the small players. It may, or it may not.
The real solution is not to bitch about JSP, but join the Jakarta
project and help JSP evolve towards those goals that you see
WebMacro
solving.
-Ray
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