Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Andrew Lenards
On 6/18/07, Thomas Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 3) Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (2ed) by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman. Not really *about* Scheme, uses Scheme for CS concepts. This is available online (free): http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Hicks
At 08:42 PM 6/18/2007, Warner wrote: There was an article that my co-worker James sent me (that I can't find) that talked about functional languages and the new multi-core architectures and how learning a functional language wouldn't be a bad thing. (If you do a google on functional language and

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Warner Onstine
On Jun 18, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Thomas Hicks wrote: At 02:02 PM 6/18/2007, Warner wrote: As I say in my blog one of the reasons to learn a new language is just that - to see how another language approaches problems so that I'm not stymied into thinking "one way is the only way". In other terms,

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Bashar Abdul
You might find JSchem interesting: http://jscheme.sourceforge.net/jscheme/main.html Bashar - Original Message From: Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:02:03 PM Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn? On Jun

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Hicks
At 02:02 PM 6/18/2007, Warner wrote: As I say in my blog one of the reasons to learn a new language is just that - to see how another language approaches problems so that I'm not stymied into thinking "one way is the only way". In other terms, because I have a hammer everything looks like a nail

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Chad Woolley
If your goal is to get a marketable skill, I'd say Ruby/Rails. Lots of Rails jobs out there, and more every day - especially if you want to move to the Bay Area :) On 6/17/07, Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I've posted up a little thing on my blog about what should be my next

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Warner Onstine
On Jun 18, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Jim Secan wrote: The correct answer should be "I don't know yet." I've been writing code for almost 40 years now (quite a trick given that I'm only 39!) and have lost count of the number of languages and psuedo-languages I've learned over the years. What I d

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Warner Onstine
On Jun 18, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: At 09:56 AM 6/18/2007, you wrote: On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: Like the one comment said on your web page: depends on your goals. Actually they just asked why I would want to learn a new language at all. Which quite hon

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Jim Secan
The correct answer should be "I don't know yet." I've been writing code for almost 40 years now (quite a trick given that I'm only 39!) and have lost count of the number of languages and psuedo-languages I've learned over the years. What I do know is this - whenever I try to learn, or learn about

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Hicks
Bill's back East for vacation, so I probably just beat him to it. ;) -t At 09:59 AM 6/18/2007, you wrote: I was wondering when Icon was going to come up ;-). I knew it was either going to be you or Bill :-P. -warner On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: BTW -- I forgot to

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Hicks
At 09:56 AM 6/18/2007, you wrote: On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: Like the one comment said on your web page: depends on your goals. Actually they just asked why I would want to learn a new language at all. Which quite honestly is not a good question, I feel that all program

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Warner Onstine
I was wondering when Icon was going to come up ;-). I knew it was either going to be you or Bill :-P. -warner On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: BTW -- I forgot to mention that if you are heavily into string and text processing it still pays to learn Icon, our locally-develope

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Warner Onstine
On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: Like the one comment said on your web page: depends on your goals. Actually they just asked why I would want to learn a new language at all. Which quite honestly is not a good question, I feel that all programmers should learn new languages

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Hicks
BTW -- I forgot to mention that if you are heavily into string and text processing it still pays to learn Icon, our locally-developed language. It's a now dated, but many of its pioneering features have influenced the current crop of scripting languages (as acknowledged in their documentation) and

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Hicks
Like the one comment said on your web page: depends on your goals. Are you just trying to learn more about "synthetic language" (as opposed to "natural language")? If so, Scheme, Scala, and Haskell all embody some fascinating concepts in language typology. My favorite: get a version of Scheme w