Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Abhi
Now what i know about VDX it does not do single forwarding table lookup to decide the egress node. Regards Abhijeet.C From: Stefan Fouant sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net To: Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com; Keegan Holley keegan.hol...@sungard.com Cc: juniper-nsp

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Keegan Holley
I agree, forwarding table lookups have been done in CAM/TCAM for years now. No one is really complaining about the speed of the current technology. Also, infiniband would be more useful than ethernet with lower latency. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Stefan Fouant

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Stefan Fouant wrote: No offense, but you are dead wrong on this issue. I come in contact with organizations every single day who have mission critical data requirements and latency is a VERY big requirement for many of these organizations. And

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Doug Hanks
A lot of our customers require low latency: financial, higher education, HPC environments and utility. Juniper has taken the time to solve more than just the low latency problem. We're trying to solve larger problems such as how do you manage an entire campus or data center as one logical

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Morrow
On 02/24/11 12:24, Chris Evans wrote: Yeah and that's great. As 90% of the installs are still gige copper where is that offering? :) On Feb 24, 2011 12:17 PM, Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net wrote: A lot of our customers require low latency: financial, higher education, HPC environments and

[j-nsp] pxe boot-file from SRX

2011-02-24 Thread Charlie Allom
Hello, has anyone had an Intel PXE booter work with a stanza like so: 94.228.69.77 (untrust zone tftp server) 94.228.69.144 (trust zone Dell PC) char...@fw0.rst# top show system services dhcp static-binding 00:13:20:d4:b9:3f fixed-address { 94.228.69.144; } boot-file pxelinux.0;

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Jensen Tyler
In my tests I have seen as much as a 30% drop in Windows file sharing performance with 2 ms of latency vs 1ms. This was in a large radiology application. Applications like FTP work without any issues. Some applications are more sensitive(SMB). Low latency to me is measure in microseconds not

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Doug Hanks
This isn't designed to be placed as an aggregated PE device. I would definitely say use an MX in this situation ;) From: Keegan Holley [mailto:keegan.hol...@sungard.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:56 AM To: Doug Hanks Cc: Chris Evans; Juniper-Nsp List Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric The

Re: [j-nsp] pxe boot-file from SRX

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Charlie Allom char...@playlouder.com said: Hello, has anyone had an Intel PXE booter work with a stanza like so: 94.228.69.77 (untrust zone tftp server) 94.228.69.144 (trust zone Dell PC) char...@fw0.rst# top show system services dhcp static-binding 00:13:20:d4:b9:3f

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Jensen Tyler
Not an option. Deeply integrated into MS stack. This vendor had a mini-web based version that performed better then the thick client due to using HTTP. From: Keegan Holley [mailto:keegan.hol...@sungard.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:44 PM To: Jensen Tyler Cc: Jeff Cadwallader; Doug

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Evans
I don't know what hardware you are using but even our older gear isn't much higher than 20micros per hop.. within the DC even old gear is fine for smb.. On Feb 24, 2011 1:11 PM, Jensen Tyler jty...@fiberutilities.com wrote: In my tests I have seen as much as a 30% drop in Windows file sharing

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Jensen Tyler
This test was over our Private Fiber WAN. Data center was a 150-200 miles from Hospital. The gear we were using has less than 4us per hop. Was also able to replicate this in the lab using the linux network emulation software. The end user in this example is a doctor waiting to look at an

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Doug Hanks
Sounds like the bandwidth-delay product really hampered SMB. From: Jensen Tyler [mailto:jty...@fiberutilities.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:31 AM To: Chris Evans Cc: Juniper-Nsp List; Doug Hanks; Jeff Cadwallader Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Qfabric This test was over our Private Fiber WAN.

Re: [j-nsp] 2x EX4200 Virtual Chassis Layer2/3 - Which JunOS Version ?

2011-02-24 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
Hi Tore, Can't speak on the EX4500s as I've not had the chance to worked with them. No experience on the EX4500s On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Tore Anderson tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com wrote: * Rafael Rodriguez software upgrades on EX4200 VCs are NOT hitless - the whole VC is

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:55:10AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote: I heard about someone building a microwave link btw CHI and NYC due to the lower latency compared to fiber and technology that they are able to attain. This is valuable for the high frequency traders, which while they operate

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Derick Winkworth
Also integrated L2/L3 forwarding so that you don't hairpin traffic through a node where the L2/L3 pieces meet (like VPLS to a node where the IRB interface is..) From: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net To: Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com; Stefan Fouant

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Evans
I honestly wonder how many caveats there is going to be. Everything sounds great on paper from every vendor On Feb 24, 2011 5:28 PM, Derick Winkworth dwinkwo...@att.net wrote: Also integrated L2/L3 forwarding so that you don't hairpin traffic through a node where the L2/L3 pieces meet (like

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 2/24/11 2:31 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2011-02-24 14:59 -0600), Richard A Steenbergen wrote: latency in and of itself, just that you are better than the other guy so you can out-trade him). When it comes to microseconds of latency in the forwarding plane of a switch/router, I'm far less

Re: [j-nsp] Qfabric

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Cappuccio
This sounds more like a configuration problem than a latency problem. Windows Vista/2008 and higher will auto-tune TCP window size to take advantage of available bandwidth, even if the latency creeps up. (So will all other modern operating systems at this point) You can always manually