Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 02:27:40PM -0600, Robert Juric wrote: Juniper also has only tested and verified their equipment with their optics. If you want to know without doubt that it will work, go straight to the source. Without doubt will give you surprises. See PR/486951 for extended fun with

[j-nsp] IS-IS routes not installed

2012-02-23 Thread Kevin Wormington
Hi, I have a lab setup with three nodes (2 M7i and 1 EX4200) in the following topology (forgive the bad ascii art): M7i1 -- EX \ / \ / M7i2 The links between them are all gige going through layer2 switches with a VLAN 302

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Juric
Thanks for the insights. Which 3rd party transceivers have you had the best luck with then? Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Daniel Roesen d...@cluenet.de wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 02:27:40PM -0600, Robert Juric wrote: Juniper also has only tested and verified their equipment

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Tim Jackson
Personally I've never had a single issue with Finisar, Fujitsu, or Opnext. SFP, SFP+, or XFP. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Robert Juric robert.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the insights. Which 3rd party transceivers have you had the best luck with then? Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Andreas Lund
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Robert Juric wrote: They may have changed their policy, but I believe Juniper only supports Juniper optics in their equipment. Others will work, but if you want full support from Juniper I suggest you talk to your account team. They also don't support cables, but no one

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Bill Blackford
When you evaluate third-party optics, do a complete test of them. http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/reference/specifications/transceiver-m-mx-t-series-1000base-optical-specifications.html

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-02-23 06:38 -0800), Bill Blackford wrote: Several manufacturers, like Finisar, MRV, etc. send the units that test well to Juniper, Cisco, etc. The ones that don't pass well, go to third-parties. Alos, if they are surplus and used, they could be dirty. {{Citation needed}} --

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Bill Blackford
heh, ok, I shouldn't post something I'm clearly not prepared to provide empirical data for. This is what I've heard and I've certainly experienced results that support this notion. :) -b On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2012-02-23 06:38 -0800), Bill

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Jonas Frey (Probe Networks)
The best thing nowadays is to get an eeprom programmer and do all this stuff yourself, this is what we do. This way you are flexible with 3rd party optics. You just buy a bunch of XFPs/SFP/SFP-P's with generic firmware and identifiers and programm the rest yourself for whatever device you are

Re: [j-nsp] juniper-nsp Digest, Vol 111, Issue 31

2012-02-23 Thread Chris Gapske
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/juniper-nsp/attachments/20120223/e0a5c8e7/attachment-0001.sig -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:55:44 +1100 From: Chris Kawchuk juniperd...@gmail.com To: Patrick Okui po

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-02-23 08:27 -0800), Bill Blackford wrote: ok, I shouldn't post something I'm clearly not prepared to provide empirical data for. This is what I've heard and I've certainly experienced results that support this notion. I've heard the same, from my router/switch sales people. I'm sure

Re: [j-nsp] juniper-nsp Digest, Vol 111, Issue 33

2012-02-23 Thread Chris Gapske
OK I used to work for TWO different switch vendors Third party optics are for the most part not the optics that fail tests. Those are usually labeled refurbished. I know JNPR ,CISCO and others do not like to support other vendor optics. So keep a set of theirs around. You should always

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Brandon Ross
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012, Saku Ytti wrote: Buying 3rd party can be done in many ways. One way is to use broken who uses many sources to find what you need. They can offer very good price and can rapidly deliver say any DWDM colour for any form-factor. But they have no idea what they are delivering,

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-02-23 14:52 -0500), Brandon Ross wrote: I strongly disagree with your characterization. I work with a Both companies I work with can deliver optics very quickly, often next day and NEVER as long as 7-8 weeks and have VERY competitive prices (and I don't mean competitive with the

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Brandon Ross
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012, Saku Ytti wrote: Both companies I work with can deliver optics very quickly, often next day and NEVER as long as 7-8 weeks and have VERY competitive prices (and I don't mean competitive with the router manufacturer's prices, I mean with other 3rd party optics). This is

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-02-23 16:53 -0500), Brandon Ross wrote: I have no idea how they do it, but I can tell you for certain that I've been able to source DWDM optics for my clients within a week every single time. And yes, I'm referring to specific colors. Sure you can source them, by querying multiple

Re: [j-nsp] Sources for SFP+ optics

2012-02-23 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:06:03AM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2012-02-23 16:53 -0500), Brandon Ross wrote: I have no idea how they do it, but I can tell you for certain that I've been able to source DWDM optics for my clients within a week every single time. And yes, I'm referring to