Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread Jeffrey Haas via juniper-nsp
--- Begin Message --- > On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:37 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > I don't think vendors sit in scary skull towers and plans for shit > NOS, I think it's emergent behaviour from how the market is modelled. > And there are ways I think the market could change, but I'm already > venturing t

Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread aaron1
Thanks ytti We still test drive a used car before purchasing, even though, the real test will be how it perform all day long up and down the highway...day after day. Yeah I don't test at scale for pps, and load of any and every protocol. Geez, that's a lot of testing. I think IXIA and Spirent

Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread aaron1
Agreed. I like your philosophy about network software upgrades. if you don't absolutely need to, then don't. I don't like to change my network if it's running along just fine. Another reason for upgrades is that a vendor is no longer going to work with you because of EoS code. I've had that

Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread aaron1
Thanks KV, also, if you just wanted to clear that high cpu thing, you can do this... show system processes extensive | except 0.0 * get the process ID of the fxpc hogging process...in this case it's 1820 me@acx5048> show system processes extensive | except 0.0 last pid: 7231; load averages:

Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread Andrew Alston
Saku, I think for us - the testing we do is to validate against our own configurations and our own designs. This is not done hand in hand with the vendor - it is done against what we use every day as a starting point - to give us some indication of where the trip points potentially are. And y

Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 10:23, Andrew Alston wrote: > 2. Start looking at the new features - decide what may be useful - if > anything - and start testing to that to death - again preferably before > release so that the fixes can be in when it is released How do people measure this? Vendors s

Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread Andrew Alston
So - been giving kinda a fair bit of thought to the original question about how one picks their junos version. I think - for me it comes down to a whole range of variables - and a lot of them relate to resources among other things. 1. Don't upgrade if you don't need to - if there is absolut

Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

2020-09-02 Thread Kody Vicknair
Aaron, 1. yes, I've seen this kb, but when I had someone I trust look at the diff, + the nature of the changes they were suggesting, I just wasn't comfortable making those changes. I personally avoided this at all cost. In my case, installs took about ~7 minutes per acx in a maintenance window