Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-12 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 at 09:44, james list wrote: > I'd like to test with LACP slow, then can see if physical interface still > flaps... I don't think that's good idea, like what would we know? Would we have to wait 30 times longer, so month-3months, to hit what ever it is, before we have

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
hi I'd like to test with LACP slow, then can see if physical interface still flaps... Thanks for your support Il giorno dom 11 feb 2024 alle ore 18:02 Saku Ytti ha scritto: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 17:52, james list wrote: > > > - why physical interface flaps in DC1 if it is related to lacp ?

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 17:52, james list wrote: > - why physical interface flaps in DC1 if it is related to lacp ? 16:39:35.813 Juniper reports LACP timeout (so problem started at 16:39:32, (was traffic passing at 32, 33, 34 seconds?)) 16:39:36.xxx Cisco reports interface down, long after

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
Hi I have a couple of points to ask related to your idea: - why physical interface flaps in DC1 if it is related to lacp ? - why the same setup in DC2 do not report issues ? NEXUS01# sh logging | in Initia | last 15 2024 Jan 17 22:37:49 NEXUS01 %ETHPORT-5-IF_DOWN_INITIALIZING: Interface

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 15:24, james list wrote: > While on Juniper when the issue happens I always see: > > show log messages | last 440 | match LACPD_TIMEOUT > Jan 25 21:32:27.948 2024 MX1 lacpd[31632]: LACPD_TIMEOUT: et-0/1/5: lacp > current while timer expired current Receive State: CURRENT

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
On Cisco I see physical goes down (initializing), what does that mean? While on Juniper when the issue happens I always see: show log messages | last 440 | match LACPD_TIMEOUT Jan 25 21:32:27.948 2024 MX1 lacpd[31632]: LACPD_TIMEOUT: et-0/1/5: lacp current while timer expired current Receive

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
Hey James, You shared this off-list, I think it's sufficiently material to share. 2024 Feb 9 16:39:36 NEXUS1 %ETHPORT-5-IF_DOWN_PORT_CHANNEL_MEMBERS_DOWN: Interface port-channel101 is down (No operational members) 2024 Feb 9 16:39:36 NEXUS1 %ETH_PORT_CHANNEL-5-PORT_DOWN: port-channel101:

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
Hi 1) cable has been replaced with a brand new one, they said that to check an MPO 100 Gbs cable is not that easy 3) no errors reported on both side 2) here the output of cisco and juniper NEXUS1# sh interface eth1/44 transceiver details Ethernet1/44 transceiver is present type is

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
Hi there are no errors on both interfaces (Cisco and Juniper). here following logs of one event on both side, config and LACP stats. LOGS of one event time 16:39: CISCO 2024 Feb 9 16:39:36 NEXUS1 %ETHPORT-5-IF_DOWN_PORT_CHANNEL_MEMBERS_DOWN: Interface port-channel101 is down (No operational

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
I want to clarify, I meant this in the context of the original question. That is, if you have a BGP specific problem, and no FCS errors, then you can't have link problems. But in this case, the problem is not BGP specific, in fact it has nothing to do with BGP, since the problem begins on

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
I don't think any of these matter. You'd see FCS failure on any link-related issue causing the BGP packet to drop. If you're not seeing FCS failures, you can ignore all link related problems in this case. On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 14:13, Havard Eidnes via juniper-nsp wrote: > > > DC technicians

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread Havard Eidnes via juniper-nsp
> DC technicians states cable are the same in both DCs and > direct, no patch panel Things I would look at: * Has all the connectors been verified clean via microscope? * Optical levels relative to threshold values (may relate to the first). * Any end seeing any input errors? (May

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 13:51, james list via juniper-nsp wrote: > One think I've omit to say is that BGP is over a LACP with currently just > one interface 100 Gbs. > > I see that the issue is triggered on Cisco when eth interface seems to go > in Initializing state: Ok, so we can forget BGP

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
DC technicians states cable are the same in both DCs and direct, no patch panel Cheers Il giorno dom 11 feb 2024 alle ore 11:20 nivalMcNd d ha scritto: > Can it be DC1 is connecting links over an intermediary patch panel and you > face fibre disturbance? That may be eliminated if your

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
yes same version currently no traffic exchange is in place, just BGP peer setup no traffic Il giorno dom 11 feb 2024 alle ore 11:16 Igor Sukhomlinov < dvalinsw...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi James, > > Do you happen to run the same software on all nexuses and all MXes? > Do the DC1 and DC2 bgp

Re: [j-nsp] [c-nsp] Stange issue on 100 Gbs interconnection Juniper - Cisco

2024-02-11 Thread james list via juniper-nsp
Hi One think I've omit to say is that BGP is over a LACP with currently just one interface 100 Gbs. I see that the issue is triggered on Cisco when eth interface seems to go in Initializing state: 2024 Feb 9 16:39:36 NEXUS1 %ETHPORT-5-IF_DOWN_PORT_CHANNEL_MEMBERS_DOWN: Interface