Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-12-02 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
On (2013-11-30 22:25 +0200), Mark Tinka wrote: troubleshooting done by getting my peer to send me an e-mail with what they are sending to me. Well you have the luxury of working with skilled operators. Once I had this inter-as-mpls-opt-A project migrating customers between two providers.

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-12-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, December 02, 2013 10:56:25 AM Adam Vitkovsky wrote: Well you have the luxury of working with skilled operators. No, not always. Saying what you're sending on the phone is questionable. Having it displayed in e-mail is more helpful, especially if you can help the other end with

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-30 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-11-29 10:15 -0800), Bill Blackford wrote: I hope this is not too off topic, but it may be worth mentioning here that the EX series (2200-4500) will only receive (routes received) a random subset of a full BGP table. If it's your plan to receive a full table then filter upon that, you

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, November 30, 2013 01:06:40 PM Saku Ytti wrote: JunOS works by default like IOS with 'soft-reconfiguration inbound'. I.e. all routes you've received are stored, filtered or not. Well, to be pedantic, soft-reconfiguration inbound - which I wonder why I still see a lot of in the

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-30 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-11-30 21:30 +0200), Mark Tinka wrote: Well, to be pedantic, soft-reconfiguration inbound - which I wonder why I still see a lot of in the 21st century even from large global providers - creates a second, unedited RIB of the BGP table. I'm not sure the idealized BGP design from

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:09:23 PM Saku Ytti wrote: I'm not sure the idealized BGP design from RFC translates this directly to any particular implementation. This is specific to IOS, and by extension, IOS XE. I've never been sure whether Juniper's show route receive- protocol bgp

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-30 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-11-30 22:25 +0200), Mark Tinka wrote: troubleshooting done by getting my peer to send me an e-mail with what they are sending to me. And soft-reconfig avoids this step, saving time. -- ++ytti ___ juniper-nsp mailing list

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:33:13 PM Saku Ytti wrote: And soft-reconfig avoids this step, saving time. In the majority of cases, you're still going to call your peer after checking the SR-RIB (my own creation) anyway. I see your view point, don't get me wrong. But for the memory hit,

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-29 Thread Paul S.
On 11/30/2013 ?? 12:45, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Tom Storey t...@snnap.net mailto:t...@snnap.net wrote: Interesting. Has anyone tried this with protocols like IS-IS and with IPv6? I'd love to add an EX3200 to my lab, but shelling out for a

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-29 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Tom Storey t...@snnap.net wrote: Interesting. Has anyone tried this with protocols like IS-IS and with IPv6? I'd love to add an EX3200 to my lab, but shelling out for a license would make it a bit too expensive. I've used EX4200 with IS-IS and IPv6 and would

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, November 29, 2013 05:45:52 PM Paul S. wrote: That still has not changed as of 12.3R3.4. It's been that way for quite a few revisions now. Same situation on the EX4550 as well. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-29 Thread Bill Blackford
I hope this is not too off topic, but it may be worth mentioning here that the EX series (2200-4500) will only receive (routes received) a random subset of a full BGP table. If it's your plan to receive a full table then filter upon that, you won't be filtering against full routes. I learned that

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-27 Thread Tom Storey
Interesting. Has anyone tried this with protocols like IS-IS and with IPv6? I'd love to add an EX3200 to my lab, but shelling out for a license would make it a bit too expensive. On 27 Nov 2013 00:25, Paul S. cont...@winterei.se wrote: From what I've seen, the license is mainly a 'nag license,'

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 02:11:07 AM Tom Storey wrote: Interesting. Has anyone tried this with protocols like IS-IS and with IPv6? I'd love to add an EX3200 to my lab, but shelling out for a license would make it a bit too expensive. IS-IS will work, but will spew out errors about lack

[j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Yucong Sun
The datasheet is conveniently vague here, Do any know whether these two support BGP? and how much instances/peers can they support? Also, do they have wire routing capability (suspiciously missing from data sheet too) BTW: Why is it so hard to get a cheap decent l3 switch? EX2200-C looks

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Skeeve Stevens
To quote: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e63 Yes, I agree it is vague. I'd like more information about the amount if Layer 3 interfaces (RVI/SVI), Static routing, etc... which, the theory if it can do OSFP, then should be

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Doug McIntyre
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 01:19:30PM -0800, Yucong Sun wrote: The datasheet is conveniently vague here, Do any know whether these two support BGP? and how much instances/peers can they support? Also, do they have wire routing capability (suspiciously missing from data sheet too) No, no BGP on

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Doug McIntyre
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 08:52:51AM +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote: To quote: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e63 Yes, I agree it is vague. I'd like more information about the amount if Layer 3 interfaces (RVI/SVI), Static

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Skeeve Stevens
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Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Yucong Sun
Thanks for the link, what about EX3200 ? EX3200 doesn't need AFL for l3 features? On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Skeeve Stevens skeeve+juniper...@eintellegonetworks.com wrote: To quote:

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Yucong Sun
specifically, for BGP and wire-speed ip routing, at least that's how i intereprt the datasheet. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Yucong Sun sunyuc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link, what about EX3200 ? EX3200 doesn't need AFL for l3 features? On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Skeeve

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Yucong Sun
nvm , looks like it still does:, quoting the software license bit. Sigh! To use the following features on EX3200, EX4200, EX4500, EX4550, EX8200, and EX9200 switches, you must install an advanced feature license (AFL): - Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) and multiprotocol BGP (MBGP) -

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Doug McIntyre
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 02:43:18PM -0800, Yucong Sun wrote: Thanks for the link, what about EX3200 ? EX3200 doesn't need AFL for l3 features? Anything EX can do routed L3, but if you want BGP, you're going to be buying a license (and for some reason, OSPFv3 on some platforms is a license, where

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Paul S.
From what I've seen, the license is mainly a 'nag license,' at least for BGP. I've got quite a few customers doing BGP on the aforementioned products without the AFL, all it appears to affect is that it whines every single time a commit is performed -- yet continues to function fine. This

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Doug McIntyre
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 09:24:29AM +0900, Paul S. wrote: From what I've seen, the license is mainly a 'nag license,' at least for BGP. I've got quite a few customers doing BGP on the aforementioned products without the AFL, all it appears to affect is that it whines every single time a

Re: [j-nsp] BGP/L3 routing support on EX2200 EX2200-C

2013-11-26 Thread Paul S.
Doug, Well yeah. I forgot to mention that the 2200 doesn't even have it available. +1 for bringing that up. -- Paul On 11/27/2013 午後 03:31, Doug McIntyre wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 09:24:29AM +0900, Paul S. wrote: From what I've seen, the license is mainly a 'nag license,' at least