Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-23 Thread Eldon Koyle
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 5:06 AM wrote: > > > Tarko Tikan > > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:14 AM > > > > hey, > > > > > You have effectively created L2 loop over EVPN, so to cut it you need > > > a link between bridged network and EVPN to be a single link. There is > > > no STP in EVPN. > > >

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-19 Thread adamv0025
> Tarko Tikan > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:14 AM > > hey, > > > You have effectively created L2 loop over EVPN, so to cut it you need > > a link between bridged network and EVPN to be a single link. There is > > no STP in EVPN. > > To be fair it's not a full loop but only BUM traffic

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-19 Thread adamv0025
> Wojciech Janiszewski > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 7:48 AM > > Hi Rob, > > You have effectively created L2 loop over EVPN, so to cut it you need a link > between bridged network and EVPN to be a single link. There is no STP in > EVPN. > So the bridge-domains on PEs consume BPDUs and do not

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-19 Thread adamv0025
> Rob Foehl > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 6:43 AM > > First and foremost, is a topology like this even a valid use case? > > EVPN PE <-> switch <-> switch <-> EVPN PE > > ...where both switches are STP root bridges and have a pile of VLANs and > other switches behind them. All of the

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-18 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, You have effectively created L2 loop over EVPN, so to cut it you need a link between bridged network and EVPN to be a single link. There is no STP in EVPN. To be fair it's not a full loop but only BUM traffic will loop back to other PE. Single-active is only way forward if you cannot

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-18 Thread Krzysztof Szarkowicz
Hi Rob, Indeed, for single-active, no LAG is needed, as only DF PE will allow traffic, and other PEs (nDF) will block all the traffic for given VLAN. So, you can deploy single-active. It is supported on MX (incluidng service carving for VLAN-aware bundle). Thanks, Krzysztof > On 2019-Apr-18,

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-18 Thread Rob Foehl
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Wojciech Janiszewski wrote: You have effectively created L2 loop over EVPN, so to cut it you need a link between bridged network and EVPN to be a single link. There is no STP in EVPN. If you need two physical connections to between those networks, then LAG is a way to go.

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-18 Thread Krzysztof Szarkowicz
Hi Rob, As per RFC, bridges must appear to EVPN PEs as a LAG. In essence, you need to configure MC-LAG (facing EVPN PEs) on the switches facing EVPN PEs, if you have multiple switches facing EVPN-PEs. Switches doesn’t need to be from Juniper, so MC-LAG on the switches doesn’t need to be

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-18 Thread Wojciech Janiszewski
Hi Rob, You have effectively created L2 loop over EVPN, so to cut it you need a link between bridged network and EVPN to be a single link. There is no STP in EVPN. If you need two physical connections to between those networks, then LAG is a way to go. MC-LAG or virtual chassis can be configured

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-18 Thread Rob Foehl
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Krzysztof Szarkowicz wrote: Hi Rob, RFC 7432, Section 8.5: If a bridged network is multihomed to more than one PE in an EVPN network via switches, then the support of All-Active redundancy mode requires the bridged network to be connected to two or more PEs using

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-18 Thread Krzysztof Szarkowicz
Hi Rob, RFC 7432, Section 8.5: If a bridged network is multihomed to more than one PE in an EVPN network via switches, then the support of All-Active redundancy mode requires the bridged network to be connected to two or more PEs using a LAG. So, have you MC-LAG (facing EVPN PEs)

[j-nsp] EVPN all-active toward large layer 2?

2019-04-17 Thread Rob Foehl
I've been experimenting with EVPN all-active multihoming toward some large legacy layer 2 domains, and running into some fairly bizarre behavior... First and foremost, is a topology like this even a valid use case? EVPN PE <-> switch <-> switch <-> EVPN PE ...where both switches are STP root