Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-19 Thread Benny Amorsen
Per Granath writes: > For the record, the Miercom report is from tests without services > offload - so that's without 'hardware offload'. It is great to hear that. > In general, with that 22Gbps on the SPC processing, the processing > power could also be eaten up by IPSec termination and 'new

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-19 Thread Per Granath
> > Even 'independent tests' from Cisco's friends do not argue that SRX3k > > can do 20G+. > > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/miercom_vs_juniper > . > > pdf > > > > I am sorry for that sort of a link in such a respectful place :) > > I am sure the SRX3600 can do 22Gbps+. The

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-19 Thread Benny Amorsen
Phil Mayers writes: > It's only a factor of two up, and they've had 6/7 years to get there. > I'm assuming the 5600/5800 can do 10Gbit/sec (of basic firewalling - > no deep inspection etc.) unless anyone has compelling evidence > otherwise. Yes, I am assuming that too. But does it do 10Gbps fir

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-19 Thread Benny Amorsen
Pavel Lunin writes: > Even 'independent tests' from Cisco's friends do not argue that SRX3k > can do 20G+. > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/miercom_vs_juniper.pdf > > I am sorry for that sort of a link in such a respectful place :) I am sure the SRX3600 can do 22Gbps+. The qu

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-19 Thread Pavel Lunin
19.06.2012 03:25, Benny Amorsen wrote: >> Em… isn't 10G+ possible on SRX HE without offloading? > I don't know, that is part of what I am trying to find out :) Even 'independent tests' from Cisco's friends do not argue that SRX3k can do 20G+. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/mi

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-19 Thread Phil Mayers
On 06/19/2012 12:25 AM, Benny Amorsen wrote: Pavel Lunin writes: Em… isn't 10G+ possible on SRX HE without offloading? I don't know, that is part of what I am trying to find out :) Well, you can certainly do 5Gbit/sec on the (much older) Netscreen 5400 hardware with M2 linecards - we have

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Benny Amorsen
Pavel Lunin writes: > Em… isn't 10G+ possible on SRX HE without offloading? I don't know, that is part of what I am trying to find out :) /Benny ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/junip

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Pavel Lunin
2012/6/19 Benny Amorsen > > > To be honest, by now it looks like a feature for a particular customer. > > To me it seems like a feature for every customer... Without offloading, > how would you do stateful firewalling at 10Gbps+? > Em… isn't 10G+ possible on SRX HE without offloading? Well, don

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Benny Amorsen
Pavel Lunin writes: > To be honest, by now it looks like a feature for a particular customer. To me it seems like a feature for every customer... Without offloading, how would you do stateful firewalling at 10Gbps+? To put it another way, is there a hardware/software configuration for an SRX340

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Pavel Lunin
18.06.2012 16:31, Phil Mayers wrote: > However, the docs suggest that it might be possible to enable offload > on a per-policy basis. > > This might be good for certain latency-sensitive flows, if true. Yep, as I understood, it's only per-policy based (please correct, if I'm not right), which is,

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Abhi
ichip would used for interface with fabric as xlr would not be capable of doing that.   Regards Abhijeet.C From: Saku Ytti To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats On

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Phil Mayers
On 18/06/12 12:22, Pavel Lunin wrote: hops. But I really wonder how (if) it affects the new session setup rate and concurrent session scaling. I really doubt, a single EZchip is capable to handle states of millions of sessions, all of which can easily pass a single 10G interface (and, consequent

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Pavel Lunin
18.06.2012 15:22, Pavel Lunin wrote: > easily pass a single 10G interface (and, consequently, NPC). NPU, to be precise. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Pavel Lunin
18.06.2012 14:47, Phil Mayers wrote: > This is interesting. I was not aware of the EZchip offload in the > high-end stuff. As of the docs, it seems like the only advantage is reduced latency: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.1/information-products/topic-collections/security/software-a

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-18 Thread Phil Mayers
On 17/06/12 08:14, Saku Ytti wrote: This is true for branch (multicore cavium octeon). But not for 1k/3k/5k. And there is no where to offload in branch. This is interesting. I was not aware of the EZchip offload in the high-end stuff. Can anyone comment on the expected (or observed) differe

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-17 Thread Benny Amorsen
Benny Amorsen writes: > It is pretty sad that when it comes to >1Gbps firewalling, CNG is > cheaper and easier to buy than native IPv6... Carrier Grade NAT, not CNG. /Benny ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-17 Thread Benny Amorsen
Thank you very much again. "No fragmentation" is a potential DoS vector but probably ok. The other limitations are similar to other vendors. However, "No IPv6" is really unfortunate. With Google, Youtube and Facebook on IPv6 already, that could be a serious limitation. It is pretty sad that when

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-17 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-06-17 13:10 +0200), Benny Amorsen wrote: > However, I am still wondering if all traffic is eligible for services > offload. Multicast traffic with fan-out > 1 is not, but that is not a > large concern for me. Is there any other traffic which cannot be > offloaded? Release notes has list

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-17 Thread Benny Amorsen
Saku Ytti writes: > EZchip is very much not software, ES+ linecards and ASR9k routers use > EZchip (albeit faster versions 3 and 4, SRX uses 2) for lookups also. > This 'service-offload' does what box should have been doing all along, punt > only first packet to RMI/Netlogic and use EZChip for s

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-17 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-06-17 11:07 +0800), Chen Jiang wrote: > SRX is the 2rd pure-software forwarding equipment from Juniper(the 1st is J > series routers), it just use multi-core CPU does all the forwarding and > security things in software. But in recent releases(maybe from JUNOS 10.4) > there is a new feat

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-17 Thread Saku Ytti
> This 'service-offload' does what box should have been doing all along, punt > only first packet to RMI/Netlogic and use EZChip for subsequent packets. > > > SPU http://www.ezchip.com/p_np2.htm > NPC http://www.netlogicmicro.com/Products/ProductBriefs/MultiCore/XLR500.htm Obviously these are w

Re: [j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-16 Thread Chen Jiang
Hi! SRX is the 2rd pure-software forwarding equipment from Juniper(the 1st is J series routers), it just use multi-core CPU does all the forwarding and security things in software. But in recent releases(maybe from JUNOS 10.4) there is a new feature called "service-offload" that could use NPC in

[j-nsp] SRX hardware acceleration caveats

2012-06-16 Thread Benny Amorsen
After having a few surprises from non-Juniper firewall equipment, I just thought I would ask here... Are there any surprises waiting when it comes to SRX enterprise firewalls and hardware acceleration? Is hardware acceleration limited to UDP and TCP, or does it work with e.g. ESP or SCTP? What abo