Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-25 Thread David Ball
Ah..so longest match still winsunderstood. thanks again. david On 25/01/2008, Pekka Savola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, David Ball wrote: > > Pekka, I'm not sure I caught why your example of a BGP customer > > advertising an aggregate to us but the specifics to anot

Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-25 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, David Ball wrote: > Pekka, I'm not sure I caught why your example of a BGP customer > advertising an aggregate to us but the specifics to another upstream > wouldn't work. If 'feasible-paths' is in use, doesn't that alleviate > the problem? Even if the 'preferred' path is n

Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-25 Thread David Ball
Thanks for the responses all, and for the pointer to the 'feasible-paths' config Doug. Strange that they don't mention those knobs in the 'RPF with asymmetry' docs at juniper.net. As all of our internet customers are put into the same routing-instance, I can't help but wonder what resource issu

Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-24 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, David Ball wrote: > I suppose uRPF would do the trick, though since I have some > customers with redundant connectivity to us, asymmetry is possible. > So, in that case we'd end up having to maintain prefix-lists after > all, which we'd reference in the 'rpf-check fail-filter

Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday 25 January 2008 03:00, Peter E. Fry wrote: > I'm curious myself... > I guess URPF doesn't fit your needs? I'm not sure how > a community match would differ a whole lot. Sadly > enough, the best method I can think of offhand would be > to run two filters -- one general and one speci

Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-24 Thread David Ball
I suppose uRPF would do the trick, though since I have some customers with redundant connectivity to us, asymmetry is possible. So, in that case we'd end up having to maintain prefix-lists after all, which we'd reference in the 'rpf-check fail-filter'. I had done away with prefix-lists for th

Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-24 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, David Ball wrote: > I'm now struggling to find another way to prevent our customers from > spoofing. The previous method relied on a firewall filter which > indeed references a prefix-list of all our customers' space. I'm > having a hard time getting away from this, as I can

Re: [j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-24 Thread Peter E. Fry
[...] > I'm now struggling to find another way to prevent our > customers from spoofing. The previous method relied on a > firewall filter which indeed references a prefix-list of > all our customers' space. I'm having a hard time getting > away from this, as I can't create a firewall filter wh

[j-nsp] out-bound anti-spoofing rules when using community-based routing

2008-01-24 Thread David Ball
We use community-based routing for our internet customers in that any static routes or accepted BGP routes are tagged with a community, such that we'll know what we should and should not export to our upstreams. This helps to avoid having to maintain large prefix-lists on each node. I'm now st