https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478210
Bug ID: 478210
Summary: pt_PT language all throughout KDE is not respecting
the 1990 (!) Portuguese Orthographic Agreement (in use
since 2009, mandatory since 2015)
Classification: Translations
Product: i18n
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified
OS: Linux
Status: REPORTED
Severity: normal
Priority: NOR
Component: pt
Assignee: j...@netcabo.pt
Reporter: eduardosare...@gmail.com
Target Milestone: ---
SUMMARY
The whole European Portuguese (pt_PT) language in most if not all KDE desktop
and apps is still written in an "old way" that is not correct anymore. All
other main operating systems (Windows, macOS, Android, iOS, etc) have already
updated their pt_PT language, as did some other desktops like GNOME (not 100%
but almost) and most GTK apps. I have been holding out from reporting this bug
for years now, waiting for it to somehow get "fixed", but it never did. I
figured that the KDE team probably doesn't have many pt_PT contributors so they
never really noticed this language was not correctly implemented, which is fine
and understandable. Since we are all preparing for the big Plasma 6 release, I
figured it would be worth it to finally have a KDE/Plasma release that finally
addresses this. Using the old way of writing pt_PT is not considered
"professional" at all nowadays, since it's been so many years already since the
agreement was made.
Long story short (trust me it's a very long bureaucratic story), the Portuguese
Orthographic Agreement was approved first in 1990 to simplify the language and
clean up unused and "silent letters" from many words to make the vocabulary a
bit cleaner and simpler. While this was introduced in 1990, most people didn't
really care about it for many years and it wasn't mandatory at all, only
considered a "suggestion". In 2009 it started to slowly become mandatory and it
entered a so called "transition period", in many official documents and
important gov. stuff it was mandatory, but for the common citizens it was still
only a suggestion. 2015 was the first date agreed to make it mandatory to the
whole PT community, but it was later pushed back to 22 Sep 2016, when it
finally became mandatory for all and everything and since then, all pt_PT
written stuff has to use that new way of writing to be considered "correct" in
the European Portuguese language.
Examples: "Actualização" is now "Atualização" (lost the silent and useless C).
"óptimo" is now "ótimo" (same thing but with P).
Sources that confirm what I am talking about:
#1 - Here is a wikipedia page, in English, speaking a bit about all of this and
how it started back in 1990 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Language_Orthographic_Agreement_of_1990
#2 - publico.pt is one of our oldest, most famous and trusted newspaper, on
this post talks about how the 1990 agreement is only going to get mandatory
after 22 Sep 2016, instead of the previous 2015 date. Also talks a lot about
what changes and what it implies -
https://www.publico.pt/2015/05/13/opiniao/opiniao/o-acordo-ortografico-de-1990-nao-e-obrigatorio-a-partir-de-13-de-maio-de-2015-1695336
#3 - parlamento.pt is literally our official gov parliament website. This is
the official document about this, and its like a guide teaching what changed
and how to write "correctly" after this agreement. -
https://www.parlamento.pt/Documents/XIILEG/Guia_Acordoortografico.pdf
#4 - many more on Google, this was discussed everywhere and had national media
coverage for years...
Here are some KDE examples:
#1 - In Discover, the words "updates" and "updating..." and everything related,
in portuguese "Actualizações" and "A actualizar..." are written in the old
form. The new form should be "Atualizações" and "A atualizar...".
The same words "Atualizar" are wrong in System Settings. The left sidebar, the
last item about "Applications Updates" is written "Actualização das
Aplicações", should be without that C. If you enter that KCM, that world is
also written in the old way many times.
#2 - In Dolphin, if you open the three dot/hamburger menu, the third item has
two words is written in the old form. It says "Acções da Vista Actual" should
be "Ações da Vista Atual". The world "acções" (badly written) is repeated
throughout many parts of Dolphin and other KDE apps. "acções" -> "ações".
"acção" -> "ação".
#3 - All of these translations should never be confused with pt_BR (Brazilian),
that while similar, are written and spoken in a (very) different way. pt_PT and
pt_BR are NOT the same and this report only applies to pt_PT - European
Portuguese / "Português Europeu".
All of these words are just "small bits here and there" but all together give
this sense of "something being off". This is not a hard fix, but surely it
will take some time effort and a nice amount patience since many if not all KDE
apps are at least a bit affected. If KDE has a pt_PT team, maybe they could be
notified about this report.
I am a native pt_PT speaker and I can help translating/fixing whatever is
needed, I am available to help, I just don't know how and although I am a web
developer professionally, I don't have a lot of experience outside of web
languages or frameworks.
SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: 6.6.4-201
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.10
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.112.0
Qt Version: 5.15.11
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