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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #75)
> That sounds like Bug 458007.
Well, yeah I noticed that happening as well but my icons were also scrambled
semi-randomly after the panel loaded so I
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That sounds like Bug 458007.
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--- Comment #74 from shadowfire+...@freedom.nl ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #73)
> So for everyone else who is still experiencing the same *symptoms* of icons
> moving around, this confirms my suspicions that the root cause is something
>
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Excellent news!
So for everyone else who is still experiencing the same *symptoms* of icons
moving around, this confirms my suspicions that the root cause is something
else, so allow me to repeat my request for new
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> (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #70)
> > Please stop changing the status to VERIFIED despite not verifying the fix.
> > I'd like William to do that, since he's the one
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> (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #63)
> > The user-facing issue of desktop icons being re-arranged turns out to have
> > multiple causes. It isn't feasible to track
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Because we know this issue has multiple underlying root causes, we need to
treat each one individually. We think it's fixed in Plasma 5.27.3 at this
point. William hasn't told us otherwise; his last comment
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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #63)
> The user-facing issue of desktop icons being re-arranged turns out to have
> multiple causes. It isn't feasible to track them all in a single bug report;
> that's not how
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The user-facing issue of desktop icons being re-arranged turns out to have
multiple causes. It isn't feasible to track them all in a single bug report;
that's not how issue tracking works. We need a separate bug
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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #61)
> This bug report is closed; please report new information or new
> manifestations of the issue with different root causes in new bug reports.
> Thanks.
Shouldn't be closed,
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This bug report is closed; please report new information or new manifestations
of the issue with different root causes in new bug reports. Thanks.
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--- Comment #60 from shadowfire+...@freedom.nl ---
> and I think this is why disabling Auto Hide makes things behave
> differently.
Oops, I meant:
and I think this is why enabling Auto Hide makes things behave differently.
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--- Comment #59 from shadowfire+...@freedom.nl ---
(In reply to shadowfire+web from comment #54)
> Hi, I'm new to this thread, not to having this issue. This bit me
> infrequently between 2015 and 2019 on two separate Fedora workstations (each
> with 1
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> Not convinced the black screen issues are related to this at all and should
> probably be a separate discussion, but in my experience black screens tend
> to be related to video drivers and just
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> Hi, I'm new to this thread, not to having this issue. This bit me
> infrequently between 2015 and 2019 on two separate Fedora workstations (each
> with 1 monitor), then
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I better had not written anything; didn't want to re-enliven the discussion.
My intention was rather to point to a problem directly related with the
underlying bug; and this is one. My video and screen have been
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--- Comment #55 from Ric Grant ---
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> (In reply to Uwe Dippel from comment #51)
> > And please, do it quickly! With the most recent modifications, my way out of
> > this problem, described several times in this and
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It's purely academically interesting, if at all, and only anecdotal. But here,
I could at any moment solve any of these problems with the workaround of the
Plasma Configuration Saver applet. Just FYI. Not any
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> And please, do it quickly! With the most recent modifications, my way out of
> this problem, described several times in this and the previous threads, my
> fail-safe remedy, the
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And please, do it quickly! With the most recent modifications, my way out of
this problem, described several times in this and the previous threads, my
fail-safe remedy, the PlasmaConfigSaver, was broken. Now calling
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Yes, you were right. We'll try to build a simpler, more comprehensible, and
more robust system for Plasma 6.
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--- Comment #49 from Uwe Dippel ---
"He who laughs last, laughs best" goes the saying.
After years of fiddling with this, and an uncounted number of posts by, among
others, Nick, the archives would reveal that this flaw was exposed earlier a
number of
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5.27 still isn't in stable yet on Gentoo, so I haven't been able to test
myself, BUT something just occurred to me and I'm wondering if this is the same
for all of us...
This particular laptop has 8gb RAM and a 512mb
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Unfortunately there are too many changes to list. Plasma 5.27 fundamentally
changes how desktops are bound to screens, and how icons are bound to desktops.
The work can't really be selectively backported to 5.26 for
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> Dear Bug Submitter,
>
> This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
> 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as
> possible
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You're using an ancient version of Plasma that doesn't contain the fix.
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The only thing I can say is that during 4 months nothing happened but ...
for 10 days at starting my desktop icon were scrambled as usually. Nothing
since.
Système d'exploitation : Mageia 8
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This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as
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--- Comment #40 from Uwe Dippel ---
You convinced my about the systemd thingy. While I still see strange things
coming up at boot, if this one can be reproduced with a start of plasmashell,
it is a 'stand-alone' problem. And the Plasma people should
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bump:
plasma 5.26.4, 2 month after the latest claum it would be fixed this is still
happening alot on fresh kde installs, how can i get the devs that worked on
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> "why is it so hard to remove any logik that touches that desktop-appletrc
> file during plasmashell startup? "
> I think I can. It's the old topic of systemd. It's water
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the point was that nothing should ever write to said file ever unless triggerd
by a user-action (aka creating a new icon or moving one)
parallel or not it doesnt matter. Also systemd cannot be blamed for this all
the
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"why is it so hard to remove any logik that touches that desktop-appletrc file
during plasmashell startup? "
I think I can. It's the old topic of systemd. It's water under the bridge. Some
15 years ago, people wanted
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We can use this one; it's already re-opened.
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--- Comment #34 from William ---
ok still happens with the old style scramble when doing the command:
kquitapp5 plasmashell && kstart5 plasmashell
seeing this in the log output if it helps:
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For mi it sometimes scramble it but arranges in the left side of the screen and
scrambles the icons which are been already there.
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do desktop dimensions also change during plasmashell startup? the MergeRequest
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2118 indeed
sounds pormising but lets pls not close the bug until it is
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If all goes well, it will be fixed in the final Plasma 5.26 release.
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> I have a theory which is borne out by
> https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2120.
>
> Bug 354802 fixed the bulk of the bug by making layouts
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> Will try. I do have a second monitor but my desktop case only has one VGA
> port, so I'll have to get an adapter of some kind, maybe.
Just been experimenting. It seems
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> Do you have a second monitor? I've actually never tried icons on the primary
> display myself (perhaps this only happens when there are no icons on there
> in fact!),
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Icons arranged neatly on secondary display before Plasma shuffles them on
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> Because it's a hard bug to reproduce. Try as I might, I can't seem to get it
> on my system. The last one (resolution change) I could at least reproduce,
> so that was
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