Re: [kde-community] Retiring applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Dimecres, 15 de gener de 2014, a les 21:47:17, John Layt va escriure: >> Hi, >> >> * A number of our apps and utilities really have had their day and >> need "retiring", e.g. KsCD, Kppp, KFloppy. There's no point keeping >> low-qualit

Re: [kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, January 19, 2014 23:42:58 Martin Sandsmark wrote: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:55:13AM +0100, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > this is not really related at all, and i hesitate to engage in the topic > > here due to loss of topical focus. > > It was merely to illustrate a point, that switching

[kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Yichao Yu
Hi, My name is Yichao Yu (yuyichao). I started to use KDE as my main DE about one and two years ago and started contributing to some KDE projects soon after including konsole, kdelibs, dolphin etc.. I have recently (about half a year ago) adopted QtCurve[1], a highly configurable theme engine for

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread David Edmundson
I think this makes a lot sense and I would welcome QtCurve into KDE. Can you read though http://manifesto.kde.org/ and confirm you would agree to all the commitments (http://manifesto.kde.org/commitments.html) of a KDE project. David ___ kde-community m

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Yichao Yu
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, David Edmundson wrote: > I think this makes a lot sense and I would welcome QtCurve into KDE. Thank you for your support. > > Can you read though http://manifesto.kde.org/ and confirm you would > agree to all the commitments > (http://manifesto.kde.org/commitment

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread David Edmundson
Brilliant. So the next page to read is http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle. It explains the entrance process and the SC vs extragear. In short we leave this thread for a few days for anyone else to make positive or negative comments about the software entering KDE. Then if ever

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Yichao Yu
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:29 AM, David Edmundson wrote: > Brilliant. > > So the next page to read is > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle. It explains > the entrance process and the SC vs extragear. > Yes, I've also read that and thank you for your explaination. I believe QtCu

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Monday 20 January 2014 15:29:00 David Edmundson wrote: > Brilliant. > > So the next page to read is > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle. It explains > the entrance process and the SC vs extragear. Note there's the incubator now for existing projects willing to join

Re: [kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:10:06AM +0100, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > namely duplication of effort and inconsistency due to multiple > implementations of what is from a use case perspective the same thing. This would be all well and good if it wasn't for the gross regressions it would suffer. You arg

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 08:53:34AM -0500, Yichao Yu wrote: > I would like to move QtCurve to the KDE infrastructure Yes! :-D I've been using QtCurve for a while now, and I'd even argue for replacing Oxygen with it for KDE Plasma Desktop Framework Visual Team Studio 5 SC Edition 2014.1, with the r

Re: [kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Martin Sandsmark wrote: > > The obvious downsides things being replaced would suffer from, thanks to > the > immature state of the desktop components, and not including the previously > mentioned obviously broken components; dreadful performance, no proper > accele

Re: [kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, January 20, 2014 18:29:16 Martin Sandsmark wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:10:06AM +0100, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > namely duplication of effort and inconsistency due to multiple > > implementations of what is from a use case perspective the same thing. > > This would be all well an

Re: [kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2014-01-20, 18:29:16, Martin Sandsmark wrote: > The current kcalc UI is very good, I often use it for stuff like bit > fiddling, etc. I can't say the same thing for the calculator plasma applet. > But please feel free to prove me wrong and make the plasma calculator much > better than k

Re: [kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 06:42:14PM +0100, Martin Klapetek wrote: > Just for the record, we now have almost 1-to-1 visual consistency of > QtQuickControls with Oxygen style and classic QWidgets with Oxygen style. > Couple patches are still pending. I think the amount of work that has gone into Oxyg

Re: [kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-20 Thread Martin Sandsmark
I first wrote a long reply talking crap about UX and regressions, but I re-read it and thought about kittens instead, so I deleted it. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 07:05:24PM +0100, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > Agreed, or at the very least has parity. This is all I really want. Don't remove kcalc until the

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Yichao Yu
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Martin Sandsmark wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 08:53:34AM -0500, Yichao Yu wrote: >> I would like to move QtCurve to the KDE infrastructure > > Yes! :-D > > I've been using QtCurve for a while now, and I'd even argue for replacing > Oxygen with it for KDE Plasm

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Yichao Yu
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, > > Note there's the incubator now for existing projects willing to join: > http://community.kde.org/Incubator > I have seen the email of the restarted Incubator project before but I thought it was mainly for start up projects? QtCurv

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Eike Hein
On Monday 20 January 2014 17:13:47 Yichao Yu wrote: > QtCurve (although being not very polished) is already stable and have > made several releases that are packaged by a number of distributions. > Is there anything I am missing here? I think Kevin just wanted to point out there's an additional wi

Re: [kde-community] QtCurve

2014-01-20 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Monday 20 January 2014 23:44:01 Eike Hein wrote: > On Monday 20 January 2014 17:13:47 Yichao Yu wrote: > > QtCurve (although being not very polished) is already stable and have > > made several releases that are packaged by a number of distributions. > > Is there anything I am missing here? > >