[kde-community] Future Git Plans

2014-02-14 Thread Jeff Mitchell
(Sending from the proper account this time) Hello KDE Community, Several years ago when transitioning to Git the sysadmins evaluated several possible options, including GitLab, Gitorious, Gitolite, and Gerrit. At the time, GitLab was quite immature in terms of code, community, and documentati

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Michael Pyne
On Fri, February 14, 2014 20:34:51 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Divendres, 14 de febrer de 2014, a les 10:31:24, Jonathan Riddell va > > escriure: > > I've made some proposed changes to the KDE Licensing Policy > > > > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy/Draft > > > > Most signifi

Re: [kde-community] Thanks for your help and please go on! (with Link ; -)

2014-02-14 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Morning Slightly embarrassing but here is the link: http://survey.kde.org/index.php/249736/lang-en Thx Mario ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Bruno Coudoin
Le 14/02/2014 14:12, Inge Wallin a écrit : On Friday, February 14, 2014 00:28:38 Bruno Coudoin wrote: > Le 13/02/2014 23:17, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : > > On Thursday, February 13, 2014 22:54:12 Bruno Coudoin wrote: > >> Anyway another approach is needed here for the new version. > > > > Kni

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 14. February 2014 10.31.24 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Our current policy is designed to allow maxium code reuse around KDE > and beyond, allowing GPL 3+ would mean some code could not be reused > in GPL 2+ code without a relicence Actually, this is most of the time not even an issue. You

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Thomas Zander
On Thursday 13. February 2014 22.35.20 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Another note, QML code is often BSD licensed, this is implied from how > simple, ad-hoc code is sometimes reused in practice (well, copy/paste > web manner). Maybe you are referring to the idea that obvious and short text doesn't get

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 14. February 2014 10.46.52 Laszlo Papp wrote: > I would personally hope for a list of advantages and improvements > before even proposing a KDE wide license change. Agreed, good thing that that is not being proposed. -- Thomas Zander ___ kde-c

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Thomas Zander
On Friday 14. February 2014 13.02.31 Shlomi Fish wrote: > > The new twist with GPLv3 is that _more_ companies do not like it > > (particularly in the device and media industries) so the prospective > > market > > grew for relicensing. I also don’t think this is at all relevant to KDE > > applicatio

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Divendres, 14 de febrer de 2014, a les 10:31:24, Jonathan Riddell va escriure: > I've made some proposed changes to the KDE Licensing Policy > > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy/Draft > > Most significant is the inclusion of GPL 3+ as an option in response > to a request by G

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em sex 14 fev 2014, às 10:31:24, Jonathan Riddell escreveu: > #* Code copied from Qt may be licenced under '''GPL''' version 2 or version > 3 or later versions approved by Trolltech ASA and the KDE Free Qt > Foundation -> > #* Code copied from Qt may be licenced under '''GPL''' version 2 or later >

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Friday, February 14, 2014 16:02:03 Laszlo Papp wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: >> > I've made some proposed changes to the KDE Licensing Policy >> > >> > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Po

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Friday, February 14, 2014 16:02:03 Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > I've made some proposed changes to the KDE Licensing Policy > > > > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy/Draft > > > > Most significant is the inclusion of GPL 3+

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:02:03PM +, Laszlo Papp wrote: > Would it be possible to incorporate this important information in some > way into the infrastructure? I think it would be useful when deciding > about licenses. I believe the more we can do for aiding the selection > for our developers,

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Laszlo Papp
Hi Jonathan, On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > I've made some proposed changes to the KDE Licensing Policy > > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy/Draft > > Most significant is the inclusion of GPL 3+ as an option in response > to a request by GCompris and

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:28:08PM +0100, ivan.cu...@gmail.com wrote: > ‎+1 for adding gpl3 to the licensing policy  Please review the proposals I have made and posted in the thread "licence policy updates" Jonathan ___ kde-community mailing list kde-

[kde-community] Thanks for your help and please go on!

2014-02-14 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
First and foremost I'd like to thank all the people who already took some time and participated in the questionnaire [1] for my diploma thesis and KDE. But it's not over yet (last chance is on 25th of February) and we still need more data and as a member of KDE I know we can do more and better.

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread ivan . cukic
‎+1 for adding gpl3 to the licensing policy  Sorry for the short reply, answering from a bus :) Cheerio,  Ivan   Original Message   From: Aaron J. Seigo Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 21:30 To: kde-community@kde.org Reply To: informing about and discussing non-technical community topics Subjec

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Richard Moore
On 13 February 2014 21:40, Bruno Coudoin wrote: > Le 13/02/2014 21:59, Jaroslaw Staniek a écrit : > This is like a hybrid, one leg in KDE, one leg in FSF so far and >> really, a distraction or me. If this is mostly work from scratch, I >> hope relicensing would be possible. >> > > I have not thou

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Armijn Hemel - Tjaldur Software Governance Solutions
On 02/14/2014 02:52 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: It would feel wrong to me to reject an application to participate in KDE because it chose the wrong version of the GPL. As long as you are careful that when reusing code you don't combine code which is licensed under incompatible licenses (which

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 21:19:31 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > So maybe it's time we think about adding GPLv3+ to the Licensing Policy? > > What do you guys think? I'd welcome that. It would feel wrong to me to reject an application to participate in KDE because it chose the wrong version o

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Kevin Krammer
Hi, On Friday, 2014-02-14, 15:25:19, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:59:19 +0100 > > Kevin Krammer wrote: > > I doubt that the FSF has any problem with cryptography being used to > > protect users from software from untrusted sources so I doubt that they > > do not co

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Kevin, On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:59:19 +0100 Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Friday, 2014-02-14, 13:02:31, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi Aaron, > > > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:17:05 +0100 > > > > "Aaron J. Seigo" wrote: > > > On Friday, February 14, 2014 04:24:12 Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > > The VideoL

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Inge Wallin
On Friday, February 14, 2014 00:28:38 Bruno Coudoin wrote: > Le 13/02/2014 23:17, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : > > On Thursday, February 13, 2014 22:54:12 Bruno Coudoin wrote: > >> Anyway another approach is needed here for the new version. > > > > Knights, a chess program written with KDE libraries,

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Friday, 2014-02-14, 13:02:31, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:17:05 +0100 > > "Aaron J. Seigo" wrote: > > On Friday, February 14, 2014 04:24:12 Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > The VideoLAN / VLC project took the opposite approach and after being > > > unhappy with the GPLv

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Friday, 2014-02-14, 11:44:29, Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Friday, 2014-02-14, 09:05:11, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> I would also like to note that making such a significant change in the > >> base values of KDE is more than just including a new project appearing > >> to have this license already in

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Laszlo Papp
Hi Aaron, >> > This is true of other GPL versions as well, so nothing really new. >> >> Sure, it is not new, but disadvantegous due to flexibility. Should one >> decide one day to prefer code sharing, this limitation would block it; >> at least in my current understanding. > > Relicensing is a pos

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Aaron, On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:17:05 +0100 "Aaron J. Seigo" wrote: > On Friday, February 14, 2014 04:24:12 Shlomi Fish wrote: > > 1. GPLv3 was not commonly acceptable as a suitable licence. Many companies > > who had no significant with GPLv2 won't get near any GPLv3-licensed code. > > Some pe

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Dijous, 13 de febrer de 2014, a les 13:42:15, Bruno Coudoin va escriure: >> Le 13/02/2014 10:26, Jonathan Riddell a écrit : >> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 04:48:00AM +0100, Bruno Coudoin wrote: >> >> I am the creator and main developer o

[kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-14 Thread Jonathan Riddell
I've made some proposed changes to the KDE Licensing Policy http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy/Draft Most significant is the inclusion of GPL 3+ as an option in response to a request by GCompris and a desire voiced by a few people not to treat it as an exception. Our current polic

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer
Laszlo Papp: > However, I think the topic is quite complex, and I do not think geek > consensus should decide here. It would be better to involve the KDE/Qt > foundation, too, because they might have more clear idea about it what > it means to KDE. Since you probably mean the KDE Free Qt Foundatio

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday, February 14, 2014 04:24:12 Shlomi Fish wrote: > 1. GPLv3 was not commonly acceptable as a suitable licence. Many companies > who had no significant with GPLv2 won't get near any GPLv3-licensed code. > Some people told me you can licence your code as GPLv3 (or worse - AGPLv3), > so your c

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday, February 14, 2014 07:26:45 Laszlo Papp wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Thursday, February 13, 2014 21:16:27 Laszlo Papp wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> > On Thursday, February 13, 2014 20:32: