Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-27 Thread Mario Fux
Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014, 07.24:04 schrieb Thiago Macieira: Morning Thiago [snip] I'm not asking we encourage that. But I am saying that: * we need a place for discussion to happen if it happens (it will) Yes, absolutely. Why not kde-devel. What else than the 15+ history speaks

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-27 Thread Eike Hein
On 27.08.2014 07:11, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: The way I've seen the goal for years is something like this: * applications should run great everywhere they can * applications deliver an even *better* experience when paired with Plasma You know, a little both/and :) +1, yeah :) Cheers, Eike

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-27 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 27 August 2014 07:51:54 Laszlo Papp wrote: My suggestion: use qt-inter...@qt-project.org for supporting people who want to just use KF5, without developing it. I would understand that suggestion if the kde frameworks became official Qt 5 add-ons, although even then one could

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 17.31:11 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2014-08-12, 16:40:36, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 21.28:14 Kevin Krammer wrote: k-c-d is the list to for things that happen in development, like kde-review requests, inter-module coordination,

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: Sure, but asking questions about how to use frameworks will end up on the frameworks list, because that's the most obvious name for people looking for help on frameworks. agreed; my suggestion is that we already have

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Mario Fux
Am Dienstag, 26. August 2014, 12.34:35 schrieb Martin Klapetek: Morning Martin We can have the perfectly named mailing list (whatever that means) but that is not going to get people using frameworks, which is at the core of your contention. To achieve the goal of more people using KDE

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2014-08-26, 12:02:27, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 21.23:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: For instance, Kevin Krammer's example of having a mean of contacting largely for gauging the need of a scripting BoF is spot on. I hope it won't get to that point, but k-c-d

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2014-08-26, 11:34:20, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 17.31:11 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2014-08-12, 16:40:36, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 21.28:14 Kevin Krammer wrote: review requests probably should be going elsewhere; they make

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 13.39:46 Kevin Krammer wrote: Only if it involves a (potential) framework. In this this is incidentally true. If the scope of the BoF would just be gathering best pratices, I would have At risk of repeating myself in this thread: the definition of frameworks is

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 13.28:56 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2014-08-26, 12:02:27, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 21.23:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: For instance, Kevin Krammer's example of having a mean of contacting largely for gauging the need of a scripting BoF

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2014-08-26, 16:15:56, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 13.28:56 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2014-08-26, 12:02:27, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 21.23:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: For instance, Kevin Krammer's example of having a mean of

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday 26 August 2014 15:28:09 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: Simple frameworks support list for random people who are not involved with KDE in any way and don't care about development (of any kind) inside of the community, but are just looking for support and possibly willing to offer

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday 26 August 2014 17:17:43 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2014-08-26, 16:15:56, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: Stuff means more than code. A best practice is shared stuff; a community-wide policy is shared stuff. The difference between having an agreed upon best practice or policy and a

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Milian Wolff
On Tuesday 26 August 2014 09:29:02 Thiago Macieira wrote: On Tuesday 26 August 2014 15:28:09 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: Simple frameworks support list for random people who are not involved with KDE in any way and don't care about development (of any kind) inside of the community, but

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Eike Hein
On 26.08.2014 22:05, Milian Wolff wrote: That would leave kde-devel for what it's been used for the past 15 years: discussing development of applications that are tightly integrated with KDE's desktop environment (i.e., Plasma desktop). I like that suggestion! My 2 cents: KDE is a the name

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 22.24:24 Eike Hein wrote: So yeah, let's please not make a write apps for Plasma mailing list. It doesn't fit what KDE is today - and that's a good thing, because our ambitions have become grander and our means to accomplish them have, too. I generally agree; that

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-26 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday 26 August 2014 22:24:24 Eike Hein wrote: My 2 cents: KDE is a the name of a community that makes a whole bunch of things, chiefly among them right now: * A set of libraries/frameworks that complement Qt and help with building applications and workspaces that run nicely on a

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, August 05, 2014 21:28:14 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2014-08-05, 20:29:05, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dilluns, 4 d'agost de 2014, a les 20:36:44, Vishesh Handa va escriure: Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 21.28:14 Kevin Krammer wrote: k-c-d is the list to for things that happen in development, like kde-review requests, inter-module coordination, etc. It is more like a kde-community-technical list. review requests probably should be going elsewhere; they make following

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: perhaps it would make more sense to recall the purpose of each list, adapt to how the community is using reviewboard, and simplify rather than redefine and move around long-extant infrastructure? +1

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2014-08-12, 16:40:36, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 21.28:14 Kevin Krammer wrote: k-c-d is the list to for things that happen in development, like kde-review requests, inter-module coordination, etc. It is more like a kde-community-technical list. review

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 August 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote: Hello people Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to discuss kdelibs changes, but now since we have kde-frameworks, the mailing list seems less useful. We already have kde-devel for other generic

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday 04 August 2014 20:36:44 Vishesh Handa wrote: Hello people Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to discuss kdelibs changes, but now since we have kde-frameworks, the mailing list seems less useful. We already have kde-devel for other

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
How about the opposite? Close the frameworks list and move that discussion back here, where it belongs. +1 For me, the frameworks list was useful for the work on splitting. Now, it is (kinda) business as usual, so we can all just return back to k-c-d. -- Cheerio, Ivan KDE, ivan.cukic

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-12 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Monday 04 August 2014 20:36:44 Vishesh Handa wrote: Random Idea: Heh, someone with too much time at hand? :-) Note that I generally find that fiddling with lists is generally generating quite some boring work across the board. How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? I think

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, August 4, 2014 20.36:44 Vishesh Handa wrote: Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to discuss kdelibs changes, but now since we have kde-frameworks, the mailing list seems less useful. We already have kde-devel for other generic kde

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-05 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 4 d'agost de 2014, a les 20:36:44, Vishesh Handa va escriure: Hello people Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to discuss kdelibs changes, but now since we have kde-frameworks, the mailing list seems less useful. We already have

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2014-08-05, 20:29:05, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dilluns, 4 d'agost de 2014, a les 20:36:44, Vishesh Handa va escriure: Hello people Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to discuss kdelibs changes, but now since we have

[kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-04 Thread Vishesh Handa
Hello people Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to discuss kdelibs changes, but now since we have kde-frameworks, the mailing list seems less useful. We already have kde-devel for other generic kde stuff. -- Vishesh Handa

Re: [kde-community] Closing the kde-core-devel mailing list

2014-08-04 Thread Milian Wolff
On Monday 04 August 2014 20:36:44 Vishesh Handa wrote: Hello people Random Idea: How about we close the k-c-d mailing list? It's main purpose used to be to discuss kdelibs changes, but now since we have kde-frameworks, the mailing list seems less useful. We already have kde-devel for other