On Friday, February 12, 2016 09:15:39 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > No, seriously, in the last weeks several people contacted me in private
> > > email and expressed that they are not exactly happy, some even
> > > seriously
> > > frustrated with the strong emphasis on non-technical topics in
On Feb 12, 2016 9:15 PM, "Alexander Neundorf" wrote:
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:17:03 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > In a do-ocracy such as KDE, you take part and are able to influence
> > direction, or you stand at the sidelines and watch, but you don't stand
at
> > the sidelines and watc
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:17:03 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 09:42:31 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > > Also, what do you think about the relation between vision and mission
> > > > ?
> > >
> > > When I joined the "vision team", my original proposal was to o
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Cornelius Schumacher
wrote:
> As it already was mentioned in the thread we should not focus on criteria who
> and what to keep out, but we should focus on what drives us forward.
That's exactly our "focused" group point. How the vague and
unreachable vision can dr
On Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2016 22:46:46 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
>
> The vision may leave quite a bit of room for interpretation, especially
> since it will be short. Some may understand one thing, some may understand
> another thing. This will lead to more conflicts later on due to
> misund
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:46:46 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 01:22:02 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> ...
>
> > A vision statement alone doesn't do much, either. A mission is needed to
>
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 01:22:02 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> A vision statement alone doesn't do much, either. A mission is needed to
> turn vision into strategy.
Yes. :-)
> > Anyway, I think vision and mission should
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 09:42:31 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > Also, what do you think about the relation between vision and mission ?
> >
> > When I joined the "vision team", my original proposal was to only define a
> > mission, because I felt that visions make more sense for product
On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > In the past, the KDE usability team (namely Björn, Heiko and I) have at
> > least twice suggested to create a common vision for KDE's products.
> > This approach has received mostly negative comments every time, with the
> > a
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:55:59 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> > This is maybe an important detail.
> > The results of "Evolve KDE" (https://evolve.kde.org/surveyresults.pdf)
> > recommend to "Develop a vision, strategy and
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> analyzing the current discussions around the KDE Vision, I have identified
> one problem which could underlie much of the tension:
> It's still unclear what we mean by "vision", "mission" and "manifesto". We
> cannot re
On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> ...
>
> > That's why I'd suggest that, before discussing the vision any further, we
> > should agree on a definition. It doesn't have to be one with
Hi Thomas,
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
...
> That's why I'd suggest that, before discussing the vision any further, we
> should agree on a definition. It doesn't have to be one with which everybody
> wholeheartedly agrees, because it's mostly used for communicatio
Hey everyone,
analyzing the current discussions around the KDE Vision, I have identified one
problem which could underlie much of the tension:
It's still unclear what we mean by "vision", "mission" and "manifesto". We
cannot really consult a dictionary or encyclopedia to answer this, because
the
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