Klickety -> kdegames & Ksame -> tags/unmaintained/4

2010-11-01 Thread nihui
hi, all Klickety has been moved to kdegames module. And Ksame has been moved from kdegames to tags/unmaintained/4. tags/unmaintained/4/klickety has been deleted. Please move the related translation files, thanks! best wishes nihui

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread John Layt
On Sunday 31 October 2010 11:33:22 Mark Kretschmann wrote: > Hey all, > > after reading the whole thread that started with Chani's mail ("why > kdelibs?"), I think the noise level has become a bit too much there. > Cornelius had proposed this rather daring idea: > > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-co

Re: Issues with Solid from trunk and qtcreator 2.0.1...

2010-11-01 Thread Dawit A
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Alexis Ménard wrote: > It's a supposed threading issue in dbus that has been fixed in the > latest version 1.4.0 I am using the latest dbus:. dbus 1.4.0-1 dbus-core 1.4.0-1 > I'm running Archlinux and I got the upgrades some weeks ago. The > problem disappeared

Re: Issues with Solid from trunk and qtcreator 2.0.1...

2010-11-01 Thread Lukáš Tinkl
Dne Po 1. listopadu 2010 19:24:55 Alexis Ménard napsal(a): > It's a supposed threading issue in dbus that has been fixed in the > latest version 1.4.0 > > I'm running Archlinux and I got the upgrades some weeks ago. The > problem disappeared since then... Yup, that's why I'm not getting those iss

Re: Issues with Solid from trunk and qtcreator 2.0.1...

2010-11-01 Thread Lukáš Tinkl
Dne Po 1. listopadu 2010 18:25:33 Dawit A napsal(a): > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > > Dne Ne 31. října 2010 03:32:52 Dawit A napsal(a): > >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Dawit A wrote: > >> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > >> >> Dne St 27. říj

Re: Issues with Solid from trunk and qtcreator 2.0.1...

2010-11-01 Thread Alexis Ménard
It's a supposed threading issue in dbus that has been fixed in the latest version 1.4.0 I'm running Archlinux and I got the upgrades some weeks ago. The problem disappeared since then... On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Dawit A wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: >> Dne

Re: Where do you need help?

2010-11-01 Thread Christoph Feck
On Saturday 30 October 2010 19:56:36 Camila Ayres wrote: > *What project is in need of some love and dedication?* Check https://bugs.kde.org/weekly-bug-summary.cgi (In other words, helping hands are needed everywhere...) Christoph Feck (kdepepo)

Re: Issues with Solid from trunk and qtcreator 2.0.1...

2010-11-01 Thread Dawit A
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > Dne Ne 31. října 2010 03:32:52 Dawit A napsal(a): >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Dawit A wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: >> >> Dne St 27. října 2010 00:57:27 Christophe Giboudeaux napsal(a): >> >>> Hi, >>

Re: Move kruler to git

2010-11-01 Thread Ian Monroe
2010/11/1 Mathias Soeken : > Hello, > > I would like to move kruler to git, but I need some help how to proceed. > Should the kdegraphics project move all at once, or will there be a Graphics > module in projects.kde.org which will hold all the sub-projects? > > Are there some online resources how

Re: Issues with Solid from trunk and qtcreator 2.0.1...

2010-11-01 Thread Lukáš Tinkl
Dne Ne 31. října 2010 03:32:52 Dawit A napsal(a): > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Dawit A wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > >> Dne St 27. října 2010 00:57:27 Christophe Giboudeaux napsal(a): > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Le 27/10/2010 00:20, Dawit A a écrit : > >>> > D

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Sean Harmer
On Monday 01 November 2010 14:01:29 Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Sean Harmer wrote: > > It would also be nice to have some pre-generated pch files for kde libs > > that can be imported into qt-creator. I know these are relatively simple > > to generate from the sour

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Ralf Habacker
Am 01.11.2010 11:53, schrieb Sean Harmer: I applaud the efforts of the KDE on Windows team they are doing amazing work, but they are trying to catch up with many many years of work that has already gone into *nix package management systems. To get a functioning runtime or development environment

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Sean Harmer wrote: > It would also be nice to have some pre-generated pch files for kde libs that > can be imported into qt-creator. I know these are relatively simple to > generate from the source but again it would reduce another barrier to entry > for would-be K

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Stephen Kelly
Michael Jansen wrote: > The question is if anyone would be willing to do the work. Because it is > not sexy nor fun I beg to differ :) Well, I think getting to my version of the end state would be fun. Maybe I'll start the project after MeeGo conf. Aarons mail seems to be a restatement of many

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Sean Harmer
On Monday 01 November 2010 13:31:15 Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Matthias Fuchs wrote: > > Am Montag 01 November 2010, 11:53:01 schrieb Sean Harmer: > > Yeah writing such an overview will probably be very hard in itself, since > > kdelibs is very large. > > In that

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Matthias Fuchs wrote: > Am Montag 01 November 2010, 11:53:01 schrieb Sean Harmer: > [...] >> One other thing that I have found that could be prohibiting wider adoption >> of KDE as a development platform is the lack of coherent documentation. >> Please do not take t

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Matthias Fuchs
Am Montag 01 November 2010, 11:53:01 schrieb Sean Harmer: [...] > One other thing that I have found that could be prohibiting wider adoption > of KDE as a development platform is the lack of coherent documentation. > Please do not take this as a criticism, techbase/userbase/api docs are all > excel

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Monday 01 November 2010, Michael Jansen wrote: > > it could work out great, it could be a disaster, it could be a lot of > > work for a little gain ... we just can't tell right now because it's > > nothing more than a vague idea. > > > > you really can't plan the future of core assets like that.

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Matthias Fuchs
Am Sonntag 31 Oktober 2010, 18:28:50 schrieb todd rme: > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > A Diumenge, 31 d'octubre de 2010, todd rme va escriure: > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Michael Jansen > > > jansen.biz>wrote: > > > > On Sunday 31 October 2010 12:33:22

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Monday 01 November 2010 08:45:00 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Sunday, October 31, 2010, Mark Kretschmann wrote: > > What do you think about it? > > i think it isn't a plan as much as it as an open ended question that we > really don't have the ability to answer very well right now. > > > unfort

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Matthias Fuchs
Am Sonntag 31 Oktober 2010, 13:45:48 schrieb Matt Williams: > On 31 October 2010 12:37, Modestas Vainius wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On sekmadienis 31 Spalis 2010 14:04:28 Matt Williams wrote: > >> On 31 October 2010 11:53, John Tapsell wrote: > >> > On 31 October 2010 11:33, Mark Kretschmann wro

Move kruler to git

2010-11-01 Thread Mathias Soeken
Hello, I would like to move kruler to git, but I need some help how to proceed. Should the kdegraphics project move all at once, or will there be a Graphics module in projects.kde.org which will hold all the sub-projects? Are there some online resources how to proceed in this case. For now I on

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Sean Harmer
Hi, I hope you don't mind a non-core dev adding in a few thoughts... On Monday 01 November 2010 07:45:00 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Sunday, October 31, 2010, Mark Kretschmann wrote: > > What do you think about it? > but looking at the idea squarley, the first question i think of is: What > does

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Michael Jansen
> it could work out great, it could be a disaster, it could be a lot of work > for a little gain ... we just can't tell right now because it's nothing > more than a vague idea. > > you really can't plan the future of core assets like that. But preparing our our assets in a way that would make id

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 1, 2010, Mark Kretschmann wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > you really can't plan the future of core assets like that. > > ...and if you don't even try, you have already lost. if we chase a broken approach, we also lose. we get the same amount

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Kretschmann
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > you really can't plan the future of core assets like that. ...and if you don't even try, you have already lost. -- Mark Kretschmann Amarok Developer, Software Engineer at KO GmbH Fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe http://amarok.

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, October 31, 2010, Mark Kretschmann wrote: > What do you think about it? i think it isn't a plan as much as it as an open ended question that we really don't have the ability to answer very well right now. unfortunately, it was also positioned on some rather dubious claims such as: "

Re: why kdelibs?

2010-11-01 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 29.10.10 12:57:38, Gregory Schlomoff wrote: > 1. Out of the box, the build process is monolithic and involves > building a ton of things with a huge amount of dependencies. I haven't > counted, but there are probably 5-10 million SLOC to build. Just to set your data straight: wc -l $(find kdeli

Re: "Cornelius's grand plan" - Merging KDElibs into Qt

2010-11-01 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, October 31, 2010, Torsten Rahn wrote: > * I think a good start would be if we defined better acceptance criteria > for stuff that gets accepted into kdelibs. > > Right now I have the impression that basically everything gets in as long > as it could possibly have a slight benefit in so