Re: Re: Fixes in Git (first in stable, then merge to master)

2011-07-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 23 July 2011 01:42:16 David Jarvie wrote: On Saturday 23 July 2011 00:00:16 Nicolas Alvarez wrote: There is no active policy saying you're supposed to merge. Almost everybody in KDE is still doing cherry-picks. KDevelop is the only KDE project I know that consistently uses

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 22 July 2011 17:17, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote: Now lets go into something more productive and perhaps we can fix this before the sunny Desktop Summit. Hi Olav, In terms of being productive surrounding this, I have several questions: Screenshots on your live wiki indicate

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 17:53 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 22 July 2011 17:17, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote: Now lets go into something more productive and perhaps we can fix this before the sunny Desktop Summit. Hi Olav, In terms of being productive surrounding this, I have

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Luca Ferretti
2011/7/23 Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com: I'd like to suggest that the GNOME developers consider changing the public name of their app to System Preferences. This matches the Mac OS X design and arguably GNOME follows some parts of OS X design. Furthermore, it is more in line with

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:17:17AM +1200, Ben Cooksley wrote: Now lets go into something more productive and perhaps we can fix this before the sunny Desktop Summit. Hi Olav, In terms of being productive surrounding this, I have several questions: Screenshots on your live wiki

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
This is what happens when you mix and match bits and pieces from different operating systems. There is really not much that can be done about it. Since that is what both KDE and GNOME are trying to do: build complete, self-contained systems. So far we are running the same OS (for most of us it

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 22 July 2011 17:17, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote: To be more specific about the problem, installing kde-workspace to a GNOME installation results in 2 indistinguishable apps named System Settings and 2 named

Re: Re: Re: Fixes in Git (first in stable, then merge to master)

2011-07-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 23 July 2011 19:28:53 Ben Cooksley wrote: During the stable branch freeze before a minor version release (such as currently before the 4.7 release), it isn't possible to commit bug fixes to stable first and then merge to master. Only master can be committed to, so

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Ben Cooksley
Hi, I find what is proposed by Shaun to be acceptable, as the distinction between the two is clearly defined. It still allows users to determine the correct System Settings application to use to configure KDE applications with what is probably the most minimal level of confusion. KDE System

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com a écrit: On 2011-07-23 at 11:27, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Why? Do you have an example that would show where Shaun's proposal falls short? it falls short in showing: System Settings KDE System Settings under Gnome, and: System Settings Gnome

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote: @Matthias: please explain how this doesn't solve the issue. It certainly solves the immediate symptom of 'two things in the menu are named the same'.

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, July 23, 2011 04:41:05 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: Hi, I find what is proposed by Shaun to be acceptable, as the distinction between the two is clearly defined. It still allows users to determine the correct System Settings application to use to configure KDE applications with what

Re: Re: moving libkface and libkmap from kdereview to extragear/libs.

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2011, Gilles Caulier vàreu escriure: 2011/7/12 İsmail Dönmez ism...@namtrac.org Hi; 2011/7/12 Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.org On Tuesday 12 July 2011, Gilles Caulier wrote: 2011/7/12 Alex Merry k...@randomguy3.me.uk On 12/07/11 08:06, Gilles

Go Daddy root certificates

2011-07-23 Thread Martin Koller
Hi, can anyone answer the case https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277319 , please ? -- Best regards/Schöne Grüße Martin A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q: Why is top posting bad? () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le 23/07/2011 12:33, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : On 2011-07-23 at 11:27, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com a écrit: I don't think Shauns proposal addresses the issue, really. Why? Do you have an example that would show where Shaun's proposal falls short? it

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Steven Sroka
Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System Settings would not be installed. You are only likely to get both System Settings pre-installed if your computer was shipped with both KDE and Gnome desktops.

Re: Fixes in Git (first in stable, then merge to master)

2011-07-23 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Nicolas Alvarez wrote: - Figure out how to solve the scripty problem. scripty does its own conflicting commits to .desktop files in both branches, and that won't change[1]. We probably need a custom merge tool for .desktop-like files that ignores translations. I *think* I managed to write