On 8 May 2014 13:56, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave differently on
other DEs), especially since GTK+ is
On 8 May 2014 13:56, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave differently on
other DEs), especially since GTK+ is
On Fri, 9 May 2014, John Layt wrote:
Exactly, they seem to have forgotten what the G actually stands for
:-) Which makes me wonder how apps like Gimp who use Gtk but are not
part of Gnome and want to be cross-desktop and cross-platform are
going to be affected? And how are the other Gtk
On Friday 09 May 2014 09:54:53 John Layt wrote:
On 8 May 2014 13:56, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave
2014-05-09 4:55 GMT+02:00 Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org:
Em qui 08 maio 2014, às 15:01:10, Martin Gräßlin escreveu:
On Thursday 08 May 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
2014-05-08 9:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org:
* CSD styled windows don't react on compositing changes
Pardon my ignorance, but does Gtk impose CSD on all apps, or just
those apps that opt-in to using it?
GTK apps can opt out (by not using a GTKHeader widget)
I can't imagine the Gimp adopting that design anytime soon. They're
already quite far from Gnome HIG.
I patched GTK here:
On 9 May 2014 10:04, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
XFCE is affected in that way that GTK developers opened bug reports against
XFCE that their window manager is broken (stating it's the only one not
supporting that, well KWin neither).
That's not exactly the way to win friends and
On 9 May 2014 10:07, Boudewijn Rempt b...@valdyas.org wrote:
Well, from what I see from Gimp and MyPaint, GTK3 is a big problem already.
Gimp's development is glacial, of course, but they started their GTK3 port
ages ago and still haven't merged it. MyPaint uses GTK3 now,
which means it
On Friday, 2014-05-09, 12:44:18, John Layt wrote:
On 9 May 2014 10:07, Boudewijn Rempt b...@valdyas.org wrote:
And in the meantime, the GTK developers themselves have made pretty clear
that GTK is for Gnome applets, not big cross-platform desktop
applications:
+Martin,
does clicking on the shadow drawn by the window
also prevents you from say focusing the window
below (when no windeco is in place)? As from what
I understood there is no hint margins.
Maybe add this to your big list :P
On Freitag, 9. Mai 2014 14:42:50 CEST, Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
does clicking on the shadow drawn by the window
also prevents you from say focusing the window
below (when no windeco is in place)?
Afaics the entire shadow area is used for window resizing (you get the gtk+
cursor for that)
It
On Freitag, 9. Mai 2014 13:44:18 CEST, John Layt wrote:
Thanks for that link, it explains things very nicely. Between their
lack of resources and the GnomeOS philosophy it will be interesting
to see how they respond to our approaches: in the article they clearly
state only a mass rebellion
On Friday 09 May 2014 09:42:50 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
+Martin,
does clicking on the shadow drawn by the window
also prevents you from say focusing the window
below (when no windeco is in place)? As from what
I understood there is no hint margins.
Maybe add this to your big list :P
Just
Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 wrote:
Any advice on how to handle this situation is appreciated.
As several people responded that I should report the issues I just did that
and reported the following bug reports against GTK:
* CSD styled windows don't react on compositing
2014-05-08 9:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org:
Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 wrote:
Any advice on how to handle this situation is appreciated.
As several people responded that I should report the issues I just did that
and reported the following bug reports
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave differently on
other DEs), especially since GTK+ is not just for GNOME but also used
by other projects.
This is
On Thursday 08 May 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
2014-05-08 9:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org:
Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 wrote:
Any advice on how to handle this situation is appreciated.
As several people responded that I should report the
Em qui 08 maio 2014, às 15:01:10, Martin Gräßlin escreveu:
On Thursday 08 May 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
2014-05-08 9:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org:
* CSD styled windows don't react on compositing changes [1]
* Double decorated windows [2]
* CSD styled
Hi all,
I need some advice. The new GTK+ release introduced and enforces client-side-
decorations (CSD) and that is causing severe compatibility problems with
Plasma Workspaces (especially the stable release which we cannot adjust any
more). I'll give a list of issues below.
I'm not sure what
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
* A hung window can no longer be closed or moved. Technical explanation:
there is a ping protocol to detect hung applications. KWin only sends ping
requests when the window is being closed from the window manager (e.g.
decoration close
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
* A hung window can no longer be closed or moved. Technical explanation:
there is a ping protocol to detect hung applications. KWin only sends ping
requests when the window is being closed from the window manager (e.g.
decoration close
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 11:24:03 Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
* A hung window can no longer be closed or moved. Technical explanation:
there is a ping protocol to detect hung applications. KWin only sends ping
requests when the window is being
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
Hi all,
I need some advice. The new GTK+ release introduced and enforces
client-side-
decorations (CSD) and that is causing severe compatibility problems with
Plasma Workspaces (especially the stable release which we
On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014 12:08:19 CEST, Aleix Pol wrote:
Personally, I don't think we want to even try to convince them against.
They're introducing interaction within the decoration space so they are
committed to the idea.
That's actually not the point.
The correct way would have been to say
El Dimecres, 7 de maig de 2014, a les 10:11:37, Martin Gräßlin va escriure:
Hi all,
I need some advice. The new GTK+ release
For those that don't follow much the GTK+ world, which release number is that?
Cheers,
Albert
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On Wednesday 07 May 2014 19:42:21 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Dimecres, 7 de maig de 2014, a les 10:11:37, Martin Gräßlin va escriure:
Hi all,
I need some advice. The new GTK+ release
For those that don't follow much the GTK+ world, which release number is
that?
3.12.1 - minor version
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