Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 26 February 2012 13:56:41 Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Friday, 2012-02-24, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Friday 24 February 2012 19:32:10 Andras Mantia wrote: > > > On Friday, February 24, 2012 06:10:23 PM Thomas Lübking wrote: > > > > Am 24.02.2012, 09:44 Uhr, schrieb Andras Mantia : > > >

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 20:36:12 Andras Mantia wrote: > On Friday, February 24, 2012 07:28:33 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > User asking on distro/KDE mailinglist/forum/IRC because xyz does not > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. he gets an answer > > > 1.1 known bug > > > 1.2 me too -> the u

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 20:31:46 Andras Mantia wrote: > On Friday, February 24, 2012 06:51:11 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > -> first level support > > > > issues are not opened on the bug tracker but in a user support management > > system - e.g. forums.kde.org. Only if the supporters figure out

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 19:27:09 Sven Burmeister wrote: > > yes, of course, we have to help the users. But they need to get a tool for > > user support, not a tool for developer communication. We need a > > first-level- support to help the users. Developers are the > > third-level-support. > I d

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 19:11:12 Sven Burmeister wrote: > Am Freitag, 24. Februar 2012, 08:06:41 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > > > My claim is that most of that "user support" only ends-up in bugzilla > > > because people did not get help somewhere else, e.g. because only > > > developers are famili

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 19:32:10 Andras Mantia wrote: > On Friday, February 24, 2012 06:10:23 PM Thomas Lübking wrote: > > Am 24.02.2012, 09:44 Uhr, schrieb Andras Mantia : > > > Bugzilla is not a to-do list, it is for what else... a bug (and > > > wishlist) > > > reporting tool for users. > > >

Re: Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 21:03:42 Ben Cooksley wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Friday 24 February 2012 02:15:54 Sven Burmeister wrote: > >> Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2012, 19:00:26 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > >> > Personally I'm not sure whether the MeeGo bugz

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Friday 24 February 2012 02:15:54 Sven Burmeister wrote: >> Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2012, 19:00:26 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: >> > Personally I'm not sure whether the MeeGo bugzilla can be compared to >> > the KDE one (technical oriented vs.

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 02:15:54 Sven Burmeister wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2012, 19:00:26 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > > Personally I'm not sure whether the MeeGo bugzilla can be compared to > > the KDE one (technical oriented vs. user oriented). From my personal > > experience (KWin bugtra