Hi, one of Debian's Qt/KDE packagers here.
Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 20:35:22 Luca Beltrame wrote:
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Currently, the people working on openSUSE packages are
On Monday 08 July 2013 20:35:22 Luca Beltrame wrote:
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Currently, the people working on openSUSE packages are against the proposal.
A detailed explanation follows.
First and
On Monday 08 July 2013 22:01:29 Andrea Scarpino wrote:
We don't just run a sed rule on each spec (pkgbuild, in my case) file. We
check for new dependencies (resp. dependencies not needed anymore), new
modules (resp. modules not part of the SC anymore), build failure, etc...
Can't we do
On Monday 08 July 2013 20:16:16 Scott Kitterman wrote:
For Kubuntu (also mostly volunteer effort), it took about two weeks to
package the 4.11 beta. For generating package updates for already existing
packages, we have a script that will produce initial packages.
This is quite fast, should be
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:05:30 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 22:01:29 Andrea Scarpino wrote:
We don't just run a sed rule on each spec (pkgbuild, in my case) file. We
check for new dependencies (resp. dependencies not needed anymore), new
modules (resp. modules not part
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:11:48 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 20:16:16 Scott Kitterman wrote:
For Kubuntu (also mostly volunteer effort), it took about two weeks to
package the 4.11 beta. For generating package updates for already
existing
packages, we have a script
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 06:33:21 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:05:30 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 22:01:29 Andrea Scarpino wrote:
We don't just run a sed rule on each spec (pkgbuild, in my case) file.
We
check for new dependencies (resp.
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 06:33:21 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:05:30 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 22:01:29 Andrea Scarpino wrote:
We don't just run a sed rule on each spec (pkgbuild, in my case) file.
We
check for new dependencies (resp.
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 06:43:48 Scott Kitterman wrote:
I want the point releases. The reasons for wanting them are for
consistency, marketing, and for distro policy releases its' much easier to
get a set of packages that are part of a release through the post distro
release QA process than a
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 06:33:21 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:05:30 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 22:01:29 Andrea Scarpino wrote:
We don't just run a sed rule on each spec
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Scott Kitterman k...@kitterman.com wrote:
These all have to be test compiled, checked for new or missing files,
checked for files that have moved between packages, checked for
license/copyright updates, etc.
I guess you have all this mostly automagically
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
These all have to be test compiled, checked for new or missing files,
checked for files that have moved between packages, checked for
license/copyright updates, etc.
I guess you
Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Scott Kitterman k...@kitterman.com
wrote:
These all have to be test compiled, checked for new or missing
files,
checked for files that have moved between packages, checked for
license/copyright updates, etc.
I guess you
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Scott Kitterman k...@kitterman.com wrote:
There I'd a licensecheck script that does this. It helps, but the results
have to be checked and properly documented and so thete is still substantial
manual work required. KDE packages are generally better about
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Scott Kitterman k...@kitterman.com wrote:
Could you please elaborate why the licensing stuff cannot be
automatically done?
There I'd a licensecheck script that does this. It helps, but the results
have to be checked and properly documented and so thete is still
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Scott Kitterman k...@kitterman.com wrote:
There I'd a licensecheck script that does this. It helps, but the results
have to be checked and properly documented and so thete is still substantial
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Harald Sitter sit...@kde.org wrote:
there would not be any problem. But reality diverges :(
I'm all for fixing this in at least KDE SC. That way if/when we have
shorter releases you can have some kind of guarantee that you will not
encounter strange behaviours
On 2013-07-09, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Harald Sitter sit...@kde.org wrote:
there would not be any problem. But reality diverges :(
I'm all for fixing this in at least KDE SC. That way if/when we have
shorter releases you can have some kind of
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:50:59 Harald Sitter wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 06:33:21 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:05:30 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 22:01:29 Andrea Scarpino
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:07:33 Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2013-07-09, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Harald Sitter sit...@kde.org wrote:
there would not be any problem. But reality diverges :(
I'm all for fixing this in at least KDE SC. That way if/when
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 14:54:38 Harald Sitter wrote:
yes, not releated to schedules directly. the problem however is more
social than anything. people mostly don't care enough. like not adding
a fully copy of the GPL.
if you buy some router running Linux you will get with it a printed
copy
On 2013-07-09, Àlex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote:
If we keep copyright holders and licence, we can change the structure of the
header, no?
We can.
/Sune
On Tuesday 09 July 2013, Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:50:59 Harald Sitter wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 06:33:21 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:05:30 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Tuesday 09 July 2013, Àlex Fiestas wrote:
...
What we need then is:
-Be Have a strict policy on using always using find_package
if somewhere a package which is used without being searched for this is and
always was a build system bug.
Alex
On Tuesday 09 July 2013, Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 20:35:22 Luca Beltrame wrote:
(apologies for breaking your threading, but I'm not subscribed to k-c-d;
in fact, please CC me with replies, thanks!)
Currently, the people working on openSUSE packages are against the
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:52:04 PM Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 06:43:48 Scott Kitterman wrote:
I want the point releases. The reasons for wanting them are for
consistency, marketing, and for distro policy releases its' much easier to
get a set of packages that are part
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 12:03:30 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 08 July 2013 20:35:22 Luca Beltrame wrote:
(apologies for breaking your threading, but I'm not subscribed to k-c-d; in
fact, please CC me with replies, thanks!)
Currently, the people working on openSUSE packages are against
(apologies for breaking your threading, but I'm not subscribed to k-c-d; in
fact, please CC me with replies, thanks!)
Currently, the people working on openSUSE packages are against the proposal. A
detailed explanation follows.
First and foremost, the KDE packaging in openSUSE is almost
El Dilluns, 8 de juliol de 2013, a les 20:35:22, Luca Beltrame va escriure:
(apologies for breaking your threading, but I'm not subscribed to k-c-d; in
fact, please CC me with replies, thanks!)
Currently, the people working on openSUSE packages are against the proposal.
A detailed
On Monday 08 July 2013 21:55:28 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
From total ignorace, how much time do you need to change a 4.12 to a 4.13 in
a spec file? What is consuming your time doing a packaging of a new
release?
We don't just run a sed rule on each spec (pkgbuild, in my case) file. We
check
On Monday, July 08, 2013 09:55:28 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Dilluns, 8 de juliol de 2013, a les 20:35:22, Luca Beltrame va escriure:
(apologies for breaking your threading, but I'm not subscribed to k-c-d;
in
fact, please CC me with replies, thanks!)
Currently, the people working
In data lunedì 08 luglio 2013 21:55:28, hai scritto:
From total ignorace, how much time do you need to change a 4.12 to a 4.13 in
a spec file? What is consuming your time doing a packaging of a new
release?
Major releases:
These require more work, rather obviously, although a small number of
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