On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 5:21 AM, Matthieu Gallien <
gallien.matth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Sorry to exhume this old thread, but
>
> Is there a common agreement on the best path forward for Baloo versus
> the current situation ?
>
> I have an interest in having a global KDE solution wh
Hello all,
Sorry to exhume this old thread, but
2016-12-29 13:47 GMT+01:00 Dominik Haumann :
> Hi all,
>
> CC: plasma-devel, due to stability issues
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Christoph Cullmann
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
> [...]
>> Actually, the bugs.kde.org page tells you the facts: The bug
Hi all,
CC: plasma-devel, due to stability issues
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
[...]
> Actually, the bugs.kde.org page tells you the facts: The bug number
> was constant increasing since > 1 year. The thread lists some other facts
> what is wrong ATM and shou
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> (evil top posting)
>
> given the silence, I assume any interest in baloo has stopped once more, or?
> Or are there any plans how to fixup the current situation?
I'm not going to be very involved with this.
I've already expresse
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>
> I did experiments and search works with tracker, but yes, a problem is
> tagging,+
> which ATM doesn't work. Nor do I say that is a ready solution now, just a
> possibility
> to avoid having to maintain low level code with at most 1 p
Hi,
Unfortunately I've been hit my multiple pretty severe health scares in the
last month, and have no idea when I'm going to be at 100% again.
For the time being I'd rather not hold up any development, so don't hold
back anything on my account.
-- Boudhayan
On 16 October 2016 at 17:46, Christo
Hi,
(evil top posting)
given the silence, I assume any interest in baloo has stopped once more, or?
Or are there any plans how to fixup the current situation?
Greetings
Christoph
- Am 7. Okt 2016 um 20:08 schrieb cullmann cullm...@absint.com:
> Hi,
>
>> Hey
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6
Hi,
> Have you tried using tags in tracker?
> Using tracker-needle, and adding a tag I get:
>
> Could not update tags
> GDBus.Error.freedesktop.Track1.Sparql.Internal no such column:
> nie:DataObject1.ID
>
> Even after wiping the database.
>
> Same for using "tracker tag -a"
>
> Am I missing a
Hey
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Christoph Cullmann
>> wrote:
>>>
>
> 1) No handling of DB errors beside asserting
> 2) No handling of errors in the extractors (e.g. see the fixes I did, all
> extractors will need more of
Hi,
> Hey
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Christoph Cullmann
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Christoph Cullmann
>>> wrote:
>>
>> 1) No handling of DB errors beside asserting
>> 2) No handling of errors in the extractors (e.g. see the fixes I did, all
>> extract
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Aleix Pol wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I don't understand why all framework discussions must happen on the
>> same list. It just adds to a crazy amount of noise, which one then
>> needs to parse through.
>
> Arguing that it should be elsewhere because you'd like to ignore the
>
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I don't understand why all framework discussions must happen on the
>> same list. It just adds to a crazy amount of noise, which one then
>> needs to parse through.
>
> If you would have baloo-devel I could understand that point,
vel"
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Oktober 2016 17:56:35
>> Betreff: Re: Scrap Baloo Thread Feedback
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Hey guys
>>>
>>> I was told there is a thread about scrapping Baloo. All Baloo
>>> discussion used to happen on kde-de
On Friday, 7 October 2016 18:27:30 CEST Vishesh Handa wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Aleix Pol wrote:
> >> I don't understand why all framework discussions must happen on the
> >> same list. It just adds to a crazy amount of noise, which one then
> >> needs to parse through.
> >
> > Arg
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Kevin Funk wrote:
>> On Friday, 7 October 2016 17:24:26 CEST Vishesh Handa wrote:
>>> Hey guys
>>>
>>> I was told there is a thread about scrapping Baloo. All Baloo
>>> discussion used to happen on kde-devel an
Hi,
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Christoph Cullmann
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't understand why all framework discussions must happen on the
>>> same list. It just adds to a crazy amount of noise, which one then
>>> needs to parse through.
>>
>> If you would have baloo-devel I could unders
Hi,
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Kevin Funk wrote:
>> On Friday, 7 October 2016 17:24:26 CEST Vishesh Handa wrote:
>>> Hey guys
>>>
>>> I was told there is a thread about scrapping Baloo. All Baloo
>>> discussion used to happen on kde-devel and that's where the review
>>> requests go. It's t
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Kevin Funk wrote:
> On Friday, 7 October 2016 17:24:26 CEST Vishesh Handa wrote:
>> Hey guys
>>
>> I was told there is a thread about scrapping Baloo. All Baloo
>> discussion used to happen on kde-devel and that's where the review
>> requests go. It's the only reaso
On Friday, 7 October 2016 17:24:26 CEST Vishesh Handa wrote:
> Hey guys
>
> I was told there is a thread about scrapping Baloo. All Baloo
> discussion used to happen on kde-devel and that's where the review
> requests go. It's the only reason I am still subscribed to kde-devel.
Heya,
Baloo is a
Hi,
> Hey guys
>
> I was told there is a thread about scrapping Baloo. All Baloo
> discussion used to happen on kde-devel and that's where the review
> requests go. It's the only reason I am still subscribed to kde-devel.
That is nice, but given baloo is a framework, that was unexpected, sorry.
Hey guys
I was told there is a thread about scrapping Baloo. All Baloo
discussion used to happen on kde-devel and that's where the review
requests go. It's the only reason I am still subscribed to kde-devel.
I must say, the thread is overall quite disappointing. There seems to
be no scientific or
Hi,
>> >>> At the same time, LMDB needs to be replaced, and fast. I'm building a
>> >>> new KVDB as an university project (it should be able to do 256GB
>> >>> indexes on 32bit machines), and if that doesn't work out there's
>> >>> Sophia (http://sophia.systems/). I'll be evaluating both as a
>> >
Hi,
>> > Questions:
>> >
>> > Tracker doesn't look at xattrs at all.
>> >
>> > At which point we would need to think about migration.
>> >
>> > This is possibly solvable with a patch in tracker. The tracker maintainer
>> > (in 2014) sounds like he would be in support of it:
>> https://mail.gnome.o
Sort of related to this: Does anyone know what the status of baloo-widgets
is?
According to dependency-data-kf5-qt5 it's in kdelibs.
Not frameworks, kdelibs, but as a Qt5 library with a KF5 prefix.
David
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Christoph Cullmann
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Generally speaking, in terms of Plasma feedback, Baloo doesn't come up
> > /that/ much.
> > I'm sure there's stuff in the bug tracker, but we don't have the big
> public
> > problem that we used to have.
> >
> > I think your
On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 23:38:08 CEST Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> first of all: I appreciate all your work and don't want to attack you
> personally in any way, if my last mail felt that way, I am sorry!
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 28 September 2016 at 20:33, Christoph Cullmann
wrote:
On Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 20:42:37 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 28 September 2016 at 20:33, Christoph Cullmann
wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 28 September 2016 at 02:36, Christoph Cullmann
wrote:
> >>> any update?
> >>
> >> Yep. In all the happennings of the week
Hi,
first of all: I appreciate all your work and don't want to attack you
personally in any way,
if my last mail felt that way, I am sorry!
> Hi,
>
> On 28 September 2016 at 20:33, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 28 September 2016 at 02:36, Christoph Cullmann
>>> wrote
Hi,
> Generally speaking, in terms of Plasma feedback, Baloo doesn't come up
> /that/ much.
> I'm sure there's stuff in the bug tracker, but we don't have the big public
> problem that we used to have.
>
> I think your problems are exagerrated because of the NFS mount.
>
> The only problem we ha
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 7:09 PM, David Edmundson
wrote:
> Generally speaking, in terms of Plasma feedback, Baloo doesn't come up
> /that/ much.
> I'm sure there's stuff in the bug tracker, but we don't have the big public
> problem that we used to have.
>
> I think your problems are exagerrated be
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Boudhayan Gupta wrote:
> On 28 September 2016 at 02:36, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>> any update?
>
> Yep. In all the happennings of the week I just forgot to write this email.
>
> If Baloo is going to be an integral part of the Plasma experience, do
It alrea
What about using already existing solutions for indexing and storage?
like for example there are projects:
* Apache Lucene - https://lucene.apache.org/
* Apache Solr - https://lucene.apache.org/solr/ (it's built on top of Lucene)
* ElasticSearch - https://www.elastic.co/
* Xapian - https://xapian
On Wednesday 28 September 2016 18:09:12 David Edmundson wrote:
> A sizable part of your argument is based on problems with NFS . SQlite
> (that tracker uses) will surely have the same problems.
> Surely If file locks don't work, then file locks don't work?
CLucene does not have the same proble
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Christoph Cullmann
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 28 September 2016 at 02:36, Christoph Cullmann
> wrote:
> >> any update?
> >
> > Yep. In all the happennings of the week I just forgot to write this
> email.
> >
> > If Baloo is going to be an integral part of
Hi,
On 28 September 2016 at 20:33, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 28 September 2016 at 02:36, Christoph Cullmann
>> wrote:
>>> any update?
>>
>> Yep. In all the happennings of the week I just forgot to write this email.
>>
>> If Baloo is going to be an integral part of the Pl
Hi,
> Hi,
>
> On 28 September 2016 at 02:36, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>> any update?
>
> Yep. In all the happennings of the week I just forgot to write this email.
>
> If Baloo is going to be an integral part of the Plasma experience, do
> we really want to depend on an external project where
Hi,
On 28 September 2016 at 02:36, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> any update?
Yep. In all the happennings of the week I just forgot to write this email.
If Baloo is going to be an integral part of the Plasma experience, do
we really want to depend on an external project where we don't have
control
Il giorno Thu, 22 Sep 2016 21:54:26 +0200 (CEST)
Christoph Cullmann ha scritto:
> anyone had some time to take a look at Baloo and Co.?
Last thing on the topic I saw was this comment to this review:
https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128664/
pgp3TaryU1XpJ.pgp
Description: Firma digitale OpenPGP
Hi,
> Hi,
>
>>> Anyway, enough rambling. I should have something in a few days.
>> sure, take your time to look at it, its nothing we need to decide in a few
>> days.
>>
>> Just as prove of concept that tracker can do a lot of stuff and
>> we still can keep the public API we have (perhaps besid
Hi,
>> Anyway, enough rambling. I should have something in a few days.
> sure, take your time to look at it, its nothing we need to decide in a few
> days.
>
> Just as prove of concept that tracker can do a lot of stuff and
> we still can keep the public API we have (perhaps beside the indexerco
Hi,
> Hi,
>
> On 16 September 2016 at 01:04, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
=> Opinions?
>>>
>>> It would be nice to hear what Vishesh, Pinak and Boudhayan think about
>>> this.
>
> I prefer getting familiar with the code as well as having a mile-high
> view of what does what before I start lay
Hi,
On 16 September 2016 at 01:04, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>>> => Opinions?
>>
>> It would be nice to hear what Vishesh, Pinak and Boudhayan think about
>> this.
I prefer getting familiar with the code as well as having a mile-high
view of what does what before I start laying down code, hence
Hi,
> Il giorno Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:29:22 +0200 (CEST)
> Christoph Cullmann ha scritto:
>
>
>> CC'd Vishesh, perhaps I am wrong with that issues and misunderstand
>> the code, unfortunately e.g. the database structure is not that well
>> documented, if I don't just not find the correct docs in
Hi,
LMDB maintainer says about that:
This is pretty special-purpose and only intended for
embedded builds, not for distro-wide use.
=> no good idea.
If we want to use that, we need to bundle lmdb and link it into the baloo lib.
Greetings
Christoph
- Am 15. Sep 2016 um 9:41 schrieb Luca B
Hi,
> Il giorno Thu, 15 Sep 2016 06:46:57 +0200 (CEST)
> Christoph Cullmann ha scritto:
>
>> FYI
>> Compile LMDB with -DMDB_VL32 to allow using larger-than-32bit DBs on
>> 32bit systems.
>
> With my distro hat on, I wonder if this would change the on-disk format
> for existing installs... Other
Il giorno Thu, 15 Sep 2016 06:46:57 +0200 (CEST)
Christoph Cullmann ha scritto:
> FYI
> Compile LMDB with -DMDB_VL32 to allow using larger-than-32bit DBs on
> 32bit systems.
With my distro hat on, I wonder if this would change the on-disk format
for existing installs... Otherwise it would be goo
Il giorno Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:29:22 +0200 (CEST)
Christoph Cullmann ha scritto:
> CC'd Vishesh, perhaps I am wrong with that issues and misunderstand
> the code, unfortunately e.g. the database structure is not that well
> documented, if I don't just not find the correct docs in the git.
While
FYI
- Weitergeleitete Mail -
Von: Howard Chu
An: cullm...@absint.com
Gesendet: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 03:22:12 +0200 (CEST)
Betreff: Fwd: Scrap baloo?
> Hi,
Hi, FYI
>
> after looking a bit more at the code, I think there are ATM a lot of things
> that need fixing:
>
> 1) 32
Hi,
first, read that from my mail to the maintainer thread:
Hi,
after looking a bit more at the code, I think there are ATM a lot of things
that need fixing:
1) 32-bit system: I see no fix, > 1GB of index and baloo + all baloo using
applications fail
see bugs like https://bugs.kde.org/sh
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