Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 05:37:57PM -0500, Jeff Mitchell wrote: > On 12/12/2009 3:04 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > we have that problem only for acl-protected areas, which are a few. > > i'm proposing a "soft acl" to be able to have more acls without > > disturbing legitimate exceptional workflo

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Jeff Mitchell
On 12/12/2009 3:04 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 02:46:46PM -0500, Jeff Mitchell wrote: >> On 12/12/2009 1:48 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:12:13PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: On Saturday 12. December 2009 19.02.14 Oswald Buddenhagen wro

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 02:46:46PM -0500, Jeff Mitchell wrote: > On 12/12/2009 1:48 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:12:13PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > >> On Saturday 12. December 2009 19.02.14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > >>> Whoopsie! Looks like this project has chos

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Jeff Mitchell
On 12/12/2009 1:48 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:12:13PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: >> On Saturday 12. December 2009 19.02.14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: >>> Whoopsie! Looks like this project has chosen to restrict commit access. >>> >> Then it would not be a kde-develop

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:12:13PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > On Saturday 12. December 2009 19.02.14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > Whoopsie! Looks like this project has chosen to restrict commit access. > > > Then it would not be a kde-developers project. > well, actually, most likely it would.

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Esben Mose Hansen
On Saturday 12 December 2009 19:02:14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > imagine such a message from the pre-receive hook: [...] I, for one, hope that such will never get widespread within KDE. It will certainly not be welcome in "my" little corner of KDE. -1 -- Kind regards, Esben

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Thomas Zander
On Saturday 12. December 2009 19.02.14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > Whoopsie! Looks like this project has chosen to restrict commit access. > Then it would not be a kde-developers project. Entirely possible, not disproving you here. Now, can people please move this discussion to kde-core-devel or

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 06:21:31PM +0100, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Em Sábado 12. Dezembro 2009, às 17.35.52, Oswald Buddenhagen escreveu: > > installing such a system also doesn't preclude allowing overrides for > > urgent cases (say, obvious build breakage and no maintainer is to be > > found on I

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:38:22AM -0500, Jeff Mitchell wrote: > Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > of course, that's quite an overkill *), so i'll just rely on my gut > > feeling which tells me that it happens too often. > > My gut feeling is that we should not rely on gut feelings to make/take > swee

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Sábado 12. Dezembro 2009, às 17.35.52, Oswald Buddenhagen escreveu: > installing such a system also doesn't preclude allowing overrides for > urgent cases (say, obvious build breakage and no maintainer is to be > found on IRC). at qtdf, we have GIT_FORCE=yes-please to enable forced > pushes in j

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Jeff Mitchell
Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 04:58:56PM +0100, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: >> On Saturday 12 December 2009 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: >>> yes, it's great to live in a filtered reality. i suggest you browse >>> the kde-commits archives and check *how* often somebody complains >

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 04:58:56PM +0100, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > On Saturday 12 December 2009 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > yes, it's great to live in a filtered reality. i suggest you browse > > the kde-commits archives and check *how* often somebody complains > > about violations of projec

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Saturday 12 December 2009 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > yes, it's great to live in a filtered reality. i suggest you browse the > kde-commits archives and check *how* often somebody complains about > violations of project policy. That's actually an interesting question. It's a bit hard to do t

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 04:15:45PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > As I said before; its obvious you want to change the kde-wide > policies. And thats a fine goal. This just is totally off topic on > this list. > as you obviously don't get it if i don't spell it out: i'm trying to make *existing* po

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Thomas Zander
On Saturday 12. December 2009 16.07.21 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 03:54:45PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > > On Saturday 12. December 2009 15.45.10 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > yeah, and now back to reality. ;) > > > > I may be dreaming, but in the KDE I've worked in for

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 03:54:45PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > On Saturday 12. December 2009 15.45.10 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > yeah, and now back to reality. ;) > > I may be dreaming, but in the KDE I've worked in for the last 10 years > this worked out pretty well. > yes, it's great to liv

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Jeff Mitchell
Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 03:32:23PM +0100, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: >> On Saturday 12 December 2009 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:31:26AM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: b) we want all devs to be able to commit to any kde-developers owned re

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Thomas Zander
On Saturday 12. December 2009 15.45.10 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > yeah, and now back to reality. ;) I may be dreaming, but in the KDE I've worked in for the last 10 years this worked out pretty well. -- Thomas Zander ___ Kde-scm-interest mailing list

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 03:32:23PM +0100, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > On Saturday 12 December 2009 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:31:26AM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > > > b) we want all devs to be able to commit to any kde-developers owned repo > > > and > > > > mostly

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Saturday 12 December 2009 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:31:26AM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > > Can we agree that; > > a) we want all devs to be able to determine themselves which emails they > > get? > > yes. and we will wait until gitorious implements it properly. >

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:14:14PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > On Saturday 12. December 2009 12.07.53 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > yes, and unfortunately, usually people are unaware of particular > > projects' policies. > > Good, so my original mail still holds :) > > I understand you want to

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Thomas Zander
On Saturday 12. December 2009 12.07.53 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:19:20AM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > > On Saturday 12. December 2009 11.07.58 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > > likewise, we want all devs to be able to comment on and otherwise > > > > process merge req

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:19:20AM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > On Saturday 12. December 2009 11.07.58 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > likewise, we want all devs to be able to comment on and otherwise > > > process merge requests ? > > > > no. > > while commenting is allowed at any time (both te

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Thomas Zander
On Saturday 12. December 2009 11.07.58 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > likewise, we want all devs to be able to comment on and otherwise > > process merge requests ? > > no. > while commenting is allowed at any time (both technically and socially), > approving lies in the hands of the maintainers o

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Esben Mose Hansen
On Saturday 12 December 2009 10:31:26 Thomas Zander wrote: > Can we agree that; > a) we want all devs to be able to determine themselves which emails they > get? b) we want all devs to be able to commit to any kde-developers owned > repo and likewise, we want all devs to be able to comment on and

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:31:26AM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > Can we agree that; > a) we want all devs to be able to determine themselves which emails they get? > yes. and we will wait until gitorious implements it properly. > b) we want all devs to be able to commit to any kde-developers owned

[Kde-scm-interest] the permissions confusion

2009-12-12 Thread Thomas Zander
Starting a new thread as its impossible to follow the old one. I hope this can be brief, though. Current state attached the bottom of this mail (Thanks Eike!) On Saturday 12. December 2009 00.54.33 Eike Hein wrote: > * In order to handle merge request mail routing, additio- > nal per-project t

Re: [Kde-scm-interest] meeting summary

2009-12-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 05:01:42PM -0800, Chani Armitage wrote: > yes, everyone in the kde-developers group can commit to any kde repo. > that will never change. > just to add some confusion ... :P i wouldn't bet on that statement. it's not been true for web modules so far, and i've repeatedly con