[Kdenlive-devel] Adding unittests to kdenlive?

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
Hi all I was wondering what the general feeling about unittests are? In my work, I have found unittests (and test driven development, but this mail is not about that) to be a very valuable tool. Unittests both document the intentions of the code, makes it easier to add functionality without bre

[Kdenlive-devel] Bug 323: Redesign the render dialog

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
Hi all It looks as JB is on top of most of the bugs in the 0.7.1 roadmap (as opposed to e.g. me, which needs to give some mantis reports some more love). One exception might be bug 323, which is more or less a redesign of the render dialog. I think this needs more thinking (and discussion) abou

[Kdenlive-devel] ffmpeg VDPO patch for h264 decoding

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 21:33 -0800, Dan Dennedy wrote: > I believe all cards that support VDPAU and CUDA require PCI Express > x16. I do not have any computers that support that! My main > workstation is a dual Athlon 2000 from 2001, which was high end for > the time. It only has AGP, but it is stil

[Kdenlive-devel] emphasize the builder wizard more on the website

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 22:11 -0800, Dan Dennedy wrote: > Thanks for your hard work. I agree with Mads - it is great. However, I > think we should emphasize more the builder wizard on both the download > page and the install from source page. Technically, it is installing > from source, but it is eas

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear friends, I would like to discuss the packaging policies of Kdenlive. I don't see many distributions providing efforts to package Kdenlive cleanly, with all latest MLT and ffmpeg codecs, appart for Marillat Debian-multimedia and Gentoo exceptions. Of course I did not test all packages, so

[Kdenlive-devel] Adding unittests to kdenlive?

2008-12-15 Thread jb
On Monday 15 December 2008 08.39:36 Mads Bondo Dydensborg wrote: > As kdenlive is clearly very much a GUI program major parts of kdenlive can > not be unittested. However, some parts can. Right now I would like to > create a unit test for part of the KdenliveDoc::convertDocument() function. > I am

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread jb
On Monday 15 December 2008 10.00:12 Jean-Michel Pour? wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would like to discuss the packaging policies of Kdenlive. > > I don't see many distributions providing efforts to package Kdenlive > cleanly, with all latest MLT and ffmpeg codecs, appart for Marillat > Debian-multim

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 10:39 +0100, jb wrote: > The biggest problem I see here is with FFmpeg. Some distros provide an > old > version of FFmpeg or do not provide some codecs. This is why I propose to make static build of MLT including ffmpeg and other libraries. Static builds are a good solution

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
mandag 15 December 2008 skrev Jean-Michel Pour?: > So we need packages: > > @mads: is SuSE providing a build farm? What is the advancement of this > project? Yes, however, they explicitly forbid compiling ffmpeg, which have stopped me from going this route. > @dan: do you think it would be pos

[Kdenlive-devel] Info for the 0.7.1 release

2008-12-15 Thread jb
On Monday 15 December 2008 08.45:47 Mads Bondo Dydensborg wrote: > It looks as JB is on top of most of the bugs in the 0.7.1 roadmap (as > opposed to e.g. me, which needs to give some mantis reports some more > love). Yes, there are 2 big things I still would like to add: * Sticky transitions htt

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread Alberto Villa
On Monday 15 December 2008 10:00:12 Jean-Michel Pour? wrote: > I don't see many distributions providing efforts to package Kdenlive > cleanly, with all latest MLT and ffmpeg codecs, appart for Marillat > Debian-multimedia and Gentoo exceptions. i just want to say that freebsd is getting kdenlive i

[Kdenlive-devel] Info for the 0.7.1 release

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
mandag 15 December 2008 skrev jb: > On Monday 15 December 2008 08.45:47 Mads Bondo Dydensborg wrote: > > It looks as JB is on top of most of the bugs in the 0.7.1 roadmap (as > > opposed to e.g. me, which needs to give some mantis reports some more > > love). > > Yes, there are 2 big things I stil

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Marco Zambianchi
Hi all! I am currently using KDENLIVE 0.7 svn on Ubuntu (not KUbuntu) 8.10 with big success. So, as first thing, i want to express my huge appreciation to the developer team. Maybe you haven't realized yet that KDEnlive is THE video editing tool under Linux. So keep up the good work! I am creating

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 11:23 +0100, Marco Zambianchi wrote: > So, giving the fact you are discussing new packaging > policies, please, remember that a disgruntled user is a lost user 90% > of the time. And God knows how much Linux OS-es are in need of a nice, > powerful, user-friendly video editing

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 10:36 +0100, Mads Bondo Dydensborg wrote: > The greatest obstacle to me is getting all the .spec and .deb files > right. > They more or less need to differ for each distribution, and for many > also > needs to include dependencies outside the std. repos. A few years ago, I

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
mandag 15 December 2008 skrev Marco Zambianchi: > > Now, forgive me, I have a little wish to express before closing. Is it > feasible to implement pan-zom effects in MLT? I mean the famous > "kenburns" effects you can obtain with dvd-slideshow command line > software. Please do create an issue on

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Marco Zambianchi
Mads Bondo Dydensborg ha scritto: > mandag 15 December 2008 skrev Marco Zambianchi: > >> Now, forgive me, I have a little wish to express before closing. Is it >> feasible to implement pan-zom effects in MLT? I mean the famous >> "kenburns" effects you can obtain with dvd-slideshow command line

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
mandag 15 December 2008 skrev Jean-Michel Pour?: > On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 10:36 +0100, Mads Bondo Dydensborg wrote: > > The greatest obstacle to me is getting all the .spec and .deb files > > right. > > They more or less need to differ for each distribution, and for many > > also > > needs to incl

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread jb
On Monday 15 December 2008 11.59:11 Marco Zambianchi wrote: > And just for Ubuntu users out there, here is a very useful webpage ;) > https://launchpad.net/~tpikalek/+archive (not really the last svn build, > but indeed better than the superbogus 0.6-svn version shipped out of the > box) Yes, tha

[Kdenlive-devel] Info for the 0.7.1 release

2008-12-15 Thread Cinephiliac
> * Shortcuts: > There are many bug reports about missing or bad shortcuts. It would be > great if someone could gather them and create a list with the required > changes so that we can agree on something. I just went through the bug tracker, shortcut config and the forums. While there have been

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, jb wrote: > Yes, thanks. I just added that repository to our website package info. Vey interesting. Would you agree to be the official maintainer of kdenlive Ubuntu packages?

[Kdenlive-devel] Increasing the upload filesize in mantis?

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
Hi all (JB indeed) We keep "needing" to upload larger than 5 MB clips to mantis. I think raising this limit is not possible from the management interface, and in any case, I would prefer not to do it, without an OK from JB. But, I would like for it to go up to e.g. 50MB. 10 secs of DV is about

[Kdenlive-devel] Info for the 0.7.1 release

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
mandag 15 December 2008 skrev Cinephiliac: > > * Shortcuts: > > There are many bug reports about missing or bad shortcuts. It would be > > great if someone could gather them and create a list with the required > > changes so that we can agree on something. > > I just went through the bug tracker,

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Cinephiliac
> And just for Ubuntu users out there, here is a very useful webpage ;) > https://launchpad.net/~tpikalek/+archive (not really the last svn build, > but indeed better than the superbogus 0.6-svn version shipped out of the > box) I just noticed that FFMPEG isn't included in here. Obviously it's in

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 06:53 -0500, Cinephiliac wrote: > My Kubuntu version of FFMPEG shows svn20080206, but then I have > backports > enabled. Not sure what the standard repo's have. Good catch. http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ffmpeg Hummm ... 20080206 as well. This means no AVCHD, bad h26

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, jb wrote: > > > And just for Ubuntu users out there, here is a very useful > webpage ;) > > https://launchpad.net/~tpikalek/+archive (not really the last svn > build, > > but indeed better than the superbogus 0.6-svn version shipped out of > the > > box) Could y

[Kdenlive-devel] Bug submitted for adding track feature.

2008-12-15 Thread Marco Zambianchi
This morning I am prettyfully obsessive. I've just addedd a mantis ticket for the "add/remove track" feature. I've seen it's been checked out as solved, but even compiling with updated svn sources (updated this morning at about 9.30 am CST) i continue to experience crashes. http://www.kdenlive.o

[Kdenlive-devel] Info for the 0.7.1 release

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 10:49 +0100, jb wrote: > Does that seem ok to you ? IMHO we should not think in terms of features, but release date. Choose a release date. Whatever is done, release ... This will allow packagers to work. 95% users don't compile from SVN and they will get most fixes. This wil

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Marco Zambianchi
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, jb wrote: >> Yes, thanks. I just added that repository to our website package info. >Vey interesting. Would you agree to be the official maintainer of >kdenlive Ubuntu packages? Well, if you were "speaking" to me, I am just a user. The owner of the PPA page is

[Kdenlive-devel] Just my 2 cents

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:43 +0100, Marco Zambianchi wrote: > Well, if you were "speaking" to me, I am just a user. > The owner of the PPA page is Tom?? Pik?lek, and these are his > contacts > notes: https://launchpad.net/~tpikalek > I hope he'll be interested. Can you ask him to package freior ef

[Kdenlive-devel] VDPAU + avchd + mplayer demo

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
http://www.kdenlive.org/kdenlive-nvidia-vdpau-ffmpeg-patch

[Kdenlive-devel] MLT static compilation

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
A friend of mine pointed out this project, which relies on ffmpeg and provides static binaries to avoid ffmpeg version problems and dependencies: http://handbrake.f According to him, it should be possible to link mlt staticly and provide a larger binary, but including all latest features and codec

[Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive packaging policies

2008-12-15 Thread Salvatore brigaglia
openSUSE packages are provided by the packman project. I mailed directly to the packager witch kindly answered in some hours. kdenlive packages on packman are release-following but i can try to ask a, let say, weekly build to get those users who want latest patches bleeding edge. FFmpeg is also (s

[Kdenlive-devel] Compiling staticly guide

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
I am writing a short guide explaining how to compile MLT and Kdenlive staticly against FFmpeg svn. Thanks to Dave Wiki. Here it is: http://www.kdenlive.org/contribution-manual/how-package-kdenlive-and-mlt-staticly I propose that we go deeper into testing static builds. When working, we could ema

[Kdenlive-devel] Adding unittests to kdenlive?

2008-12-15 Thread Mads Bondo Dydensborg
mandag 15 December 2008 skrev jb: > On Monday 15 December 2008 08.39:36 Mads Bondo Dydensborg wrote: > > As kdenlive is clearly very much a GUI program major parts of kdenlive can > > not be unittested. However, some parts can. Right now I would like to > > create a unit test for part of the Kdenli

[Kdenlive-devel] MLT static compilation

2008-12-15 Thread Dan Dennedy
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Jean-Michel Pour? wrote: > A friend of mine pointed out this project, which relies on ffmpeg and > provides static binaries to avoid ffmpeg version problems and > dependencies: http://handbrake.f > > According to him, it should be possible to link mlt staticly and

[Kdenlive-devel] [Mlt-devel] MLT static compilation

2008-12-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 10:19 -0800, Dan Dennedy wrote: > I tend to let the > level of nuisance push me to new measures, and right now it is not so > bad for FFmpeg, but the least I can do is #2 to prevent to total > ambiguity. I understand your point and I am not asking you to release FFmpeg along

[Kdenlive-devel] Info for the 0.7.1 release

2008-12-15 Thread Dan Dennedy
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Jean-Michel Pour? wrote: > On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 10:49 +0100, jb wrote: >> Does that seem ok to you ? > > IMHO we should not think in terms of features, but release date. Choose > a release date. Whatever is done, release ... This will allow packagers > to work. 95

[Kdenlive-devel] Info for the 0.7.1 release

2008-12-15 Thread reinhard
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 06:25 -0500, Cinephiliac wrote: > > * Shortcuts: > > There are many bug reports about missing or bad shortcuts. It would be > > great if someone could gather them and create a list with the required > > changes so that we can agree on something. Hi, IMHO it is also, if not m

[Kdenlive-devel] Bug submitted for adding track feature.

2008-12-15 Thread Cinephiliac
On Monday 15 December 2008 06:46:24 Marco Zambianchi wrote: > I've just addedd a mantis ticket for the "add/remove track" feature. > I've seen it's been checked out as solved, but even compiling with > updated svn sources (updated this morning at about 9.30 am CST) i > continue to experience crash

[Kdenlive-devel] ffmpeg VDPO patch for h264 decoding

2008-12-15 Thread Dan Dennedy
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Jean-Michel Pour? wrote: > On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 21:33 -0800, Dan Dennedy wrote: >> I believe all cards that support VDPAU and CUDA require PCI Express >> x16. I do not have any computers that support that! My main >> workstation is a dual Athlon 2000 from 2001, w