Re: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Frank Cusack
On 28 Jan 2004 07:32:46 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone have any pointers to information about the relative merits > of using Kerberos or LDAP for authentication in a large heterogeneous > environment? I think other responses are missing the bigger picture. You are almost certainly (I'd b

Re: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Russ Allbery
cyberp70 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We currently use Kerberos for authentication for almost everything on > our network. Some people here are advocating switching to using LDAP > for authentication (we already have a pretty well developed LDAP > infrastructure). This would of course require e

MAC OS 10.3 kerberos error

2004-01-28 Thread Philip Swanzy
Hello, I am working on setting up a eMAC running OS 10.3 and using its built in kerberos 5 to authenticate through our sever dce.psu.edu. I am receiving an incorrect net address error when i try to grab a ticket from our server from the MAC. Now our server is only kerberos 4. I have rea

Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread cyberp70
At the risk of starting a religious war We currently use Kerberos for authentication for almost everything on our network. Some people here are advocating switching to using LDAP for authentication (we already have a pretty well developed LDAP infrastructure). This would of course require ev

Need some help about krb5 with redhat9

2004-01-28 Thread TANARAT CHOTIPUN
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Re: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Jeffrey Altman
GSSAPI Kerberos V5 is being used for authentication LDAP is being used for authorization. This is not the same as using LDAP for authentication. Jeffrey Altman Harry Le wrote: > Not entirely true. > > Most LDAP servers now support the SASL/GSSAPI mechanism. It uses Kerberos > V5 creden

Re: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Andreas
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 04:35:55PM -0500, Kevin Coffman wrote: > But it does require you to send your password (over SSL) to the LDAP server > which then uses SASL/GSSAPI to verify the password? Isn't that how this > works, or am I missing something? No, you are talking about using something like

RE: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Tim Alsop
Harry, others, The SASL/GSS mechanism supported by the LDAP server is used to securely access the directory. Using SASL/GSS and LDAP does not help authenticate a user so he/she can use an application which then presents the users identity to another application components in a secure manner - t

RE: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Kevin Coffman
But it does require you to send your password (over SSL) to the LDAP server which then uses SASL/GSSAPI to verify the password? Isn't that how this works, or am I missing something? K.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Le Sent: Wedn

Re: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Jeffrey I. Schiller
Let me try to explain this another way... General rule: Your password should only be accessible to a trusted computer. There are three computers in a potential transaction. 1. The Client Computer -- Trusted 2. The KDC/LDAP Server -- Trusted 3. The Server-- UNTRUSTED When using K

RE: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread wang, ye
Normally, it is not allowed client user to modify password, but LDAP server login admin user will be able to do it. Actually, LDAP server is an authentication service provider. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Le Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Harry Le
Not entirely true. Most LDAP servers now support the SASL/GSSAPI mechanism. It uses Kerberos V5 credentials to authenticate users against LDAP directories. This will not require users to change passwords. For data privacy, use SSL. Joseph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kerberos vs. LDAP for authentication -- any opinions?

2004-01-28 Thread Jeffrey Altman
LDAP is not an authentication infrastructure. All you are doing with LDAP is providing a database of usernames and passwords which is accessible over the network. Your users must then transmit said usernames and passwords across the network to a potentially compromised machine in order for them to