Help with Heimdal to MIT conversion of code

2004-10-06 Thread ronnie sahlberg
Hi list I am the guy that implemented Kerberos support in Ethereal to allow users (given the keytab file is available) to decrypt the content of tickets. I would like to add support for MIT kerberos as well so that users can select at compile time which particular version of kerberos they use

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Jason T Hardy
On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 23:03, Ken Raeburn wrote: I think there are better solutions to that. (1) Create a DNS name which points to multiple addresses; typically the nameserver will change the order randomly, which will effect some load balancing. (2) Use DNS SRV records to return the names

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Jason T Hardy
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 00:23, Frank Cusack wrote: balancer, have all of the KDC's share one hostname. Our kadmin server can also share that hostname. kerberos:88 - points to our KDC's kerberos:749 - point to our admin server Isn't that broken? You can't load balance the admin server

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Ken Hornstein
Isn't that broken? You can't load balance the admin server because MIT isn't multi-master. For DR it's just as easy to bring up a new server with the old server's IP. No, it's not broken. The kadmin server that's active responds to the request. If my admin server goes down I can promote one

WindowsXP/Solaris : incorrect key version number

2004-10-06 Thread Jacques Lebastard
Hi there, a few days ago, I succeeded in running a SSPI/GSS-API client/server program between an XP workstation and a Solaris server. The server's keytab was generated using Windows 'ktpass' tool. I generated another keytab file using the same tool (with the same parameters) and installed that

Re: WindowsXP/Solaris : incorrect key version number

2004-10-06 Thread Douglas E. Engert
Jacques Lebastard wrote: Hi there, a few days ago, I succeeded in running a SSPI/GSS-API client/server program between an XP workstation and a Solaris server. The server's keytab was generated using Windows 'ktpass' tool. Windows 2000 AD did not handle the kvno correctly and always used 1 or 0.

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:59:06AM -0400, Ken Hornstein wrote: And let me echo the comments of others: we've run our Kerberos servers on the oldest, crappiest hardware we've had kicking around the dustbin (we upgrade it occasionally, but it's always to the latest crappiest system we've got

Re: WindowsXP/Solaris : incorrect key version number

2004-10-06 Thread Jacques Lebastard
Douglas E. Engert wrote: Jacques Lebastard wrote: Hi there, a few days ago, I succeeded in running a SSPI/GSS-API client/server program between an XP workstation and a Solaris server. The server's keytab was generated using Windows 'ktpass' tool. Windows 2000 AD did not handle the kvno

RE: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Kasundra, Digant
And let me echo the comments of others: we've run our Kerberos servers on the oldest, crappiest hardware we've had kicking around the dustbin (we upgrade it occasionally, but it's always to the latest crappiest system we've got laying around). I seriously doubt you're going to need a load

RE: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Kasundra, Digant
I agree that the load is not an issue. But with out DNS round-robin, and without the load-balancer, we'd have to arbitrarily point our systems and services at one of the slaves. If that slave goes down, we'd have to scramble to see who all was pointing to it and change them to point to the

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 12:07:23PM -0500, Kasundra, Digant wrote: I agree that the load is not an issue. But with out DNS round-robin, and without the load-balancer, we'd have to arbitrarily point our systems and services at one of the slaves. If that slave goes down, we'd have to scramble

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Ken Hornstein
If we could modify DNS to do DNS round-robin, we too would be okay. But we can't. This is the part I don't understand. _WHY_ do you think you need this? I've literally run 6 years with a very simple setup: two KDCs, each one listed in DNS and our krb5.conf. On the rare occasions we lose a

RE: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Kasundra, Digant
Anycast looks promising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tillman Hodgson Sent: Wed 10/6/2004 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kerberos behind load balancer? On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 12:07:23PM -0500, Kasundra, Digant wrote: I agree that the load is

RE: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Kasundra, Digant
How do you list both in DNS? Are you implying that in DNS you only have (for instance) kerb1.mit.edu and kerb2.mit.edu and list both machines as KDCs in the krb5.conf. If so, the app then randomly picks a KDC and tries that and if that fails, it rolls over to the next? You then build that

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Ken Hornstein
How do you list both in DNS? Are you implying that in DNS you only have (for instance) kerb1.mit.edu and kerb2.mit.edu and list both machines as KDCs in the krb5.conf. If so, the app then randomly picks a KDC and tries that and if that fails, it rolls over to the next? You then build that

RE: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Kasundra, Digant
I should have added, using anycast might be doable, depending on what kind of network environment it would need. I'm not familiar with what kind of layout you would want to make this work. And of course, the same politics might not let us do this either -Original Message- From:

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Sam Hartman
Jason == Jason T Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Sam, Actually, a load balancer simplifies client deployment Jason in our case (we can't utilize DNS load balancing on our Jason campus). We can, with a load balancer, have all of the Jason KDC's share one hostname. Our kadmin

RE: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Kasundra, Digant
Jason can correct me if I'm wrong, but the internal politics here would not allow us to do this. I'm not 100% sure, however. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ken Hornstein Sent: Wed 10/6/2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kerberos behind load

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Gary LaVoy
The load balancer is simply another failure point. As is everything else. However load balancers are complicated devices and more prone to failure. WHOA! - Yes load balancers can be complicated if you want to use all the features, but prone to failure?? where do you get that from? We have

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Jason T Hardy
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 12:52, Sam Hartman wrote: Jason == Jason T Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Sam, Actually, a load balancer simplifies client deployment Jason in our case (we can't utilize DNS load balancing on our Jason campus). We can, with a load balancer, have all

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Ken Hornstein
I guess the problem that everyone is having with our deployment is the term load-balancer. We don't actually want to easy the load off of our KDC's, we just want provide a seamless way of ensuring availability in the event that we lose one (or more) of them. I think it's true for everyone who's

Re: WindowsXP/Solaris : incorrect key version number

2004-10-06 Thread Tyson Oswald
Jacques, I ran into a simlar issue with going form Solaris to Windows AD. ktpass increments the ktnvo every time tyou run it against an account, and will create your keytab with the ktvno. On our servers the account created always started with 4. Make sure that your keytab is the most recent

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Frank Cusack
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:31:19 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason T Hardy) wrote: I guess the problem that everyone is having with our deployment is the term load-balancer. We don't actually want to easy the load off of our ... Good, because: You'll say that DNS is the answer. I would agree.

Re: Kerberos behind load balancer?

2004-10-06 Thread Frank Cusack
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:21:19 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary LaVoy) wrote: The load balancer is simply another failure point. As is everything else. However load balancers are complicated devices and more prone to failure. WHOA! - Yes load balancers can be complicated if you want to use

Release 0.1.2 from the Hurderos Project.

2004-10-06 Thread g . w
Good evening to everyone. The Hurderos Project released version 0.1.2 of its Open-Source enterprise identity, services and authorization management solution on October 6th, 2004. Source and binaries are available at the following locations: Source: